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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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I'm trying to understand what rubber parts and or shims go between the bottom of the radiator cradle and the front cross member.

When I took it apart there was a piece of 1/16" Flat rubber sheet about 2" x 5" right in the middle where the bolt hole is. But it looks like there was evidence of some push in rubber bumpers in the lower corners of the cradle.

The parts diagrams don't show any detail there.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 15:39
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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The basic cradle mount looks very much like the Clipper cradle and there is nothing rubber other than the rubber insulating shims that surround the bolt in the middle touching the crossmember on those cradles . Clippers do have extra diagonal pieces to the frame which have rubber donuts at each end that I don't see on earlier models so if there is a hole and room for some push in bumpers to help stabilize, it probably would not hurt -- depending on whether you can find the right thickness after the cradle height is determined.

The thickness of the center shim/washers do control fender gap at the cowl and there are a couple of thicknesses -- 3/16 and 1/4 -- listed. Specs are in the utility section. Quantity is X so depends on cradle height needed. Clippers also had steel slip in shims used in combination with the rubber washers but don't see any metal other than the washer next to the nut called for on the 115.

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Posted on: 2023/11/21 17:01
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Thanks Howard that helps. So I'll have to get it in place and figure out the shims after the fact once I get the sheet metal installed.

There are holes in the corners and one had the remnants of a rubber bumper in it. Whether that was original or now, who knows.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 17:54
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Got the front frame clip painted, And also a coat of rust converter on the radiator cradle.

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Posted on: 2023/11/21 17:56
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Don't see holes you mention on the corners unless you mean the two round holes on either side of center and wonder if those might be drain holes.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 19:02
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Happy Holidays from Nashville! I can’t tell you enough what a wonderful and professional job you have done and continue to do on a daily basis! That day I hauled the Jalopy off Marks’s farm in Westmoreland I could have never even imagined in my wildest dreams what it would become in your hands! Great, great job Kevin!

Posted on: 2023/11/21 19:02
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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My 120 has round rubber/fabric washers with one on top of the harness and one between it and the frame. They're frazzled, but it looks like they were about the size of a half dollar and 1/2 or 7/16 thick.+- I think the two smaller holes are drain holes. There are large steel flat washers retaining the rubber which looks to be the same material as the body mount pads.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 20:28
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Steele has this listed. They show a thickness of 5/8ths.

https://www.steelerubber.com/radiator-mounting-pad-30-0309-31

When I took the car apart, there was only a 1/16 piece of rubber between the cradle and the frame. No metal washers or anything between the two. That being said the hood alightment was not that great.

Posted on: 2023/11/21 20:59
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Thanks! I appreciate it.

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109settle wrote:
Happy Holidays from Nashville! I can’t tell you enough what a wonderful and professional job you have done and continue to do on a daily basis! That day I hauled the Jalopy off Marks’s farm in Westmoreland I could have never even imagined in my wildest dreams what it would become in your hands! Great, great job Kevin!

Posted on: 2023/11/21 21:15
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Re: BigKev's 1937 115-C Convertible Coupe
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Circling back to the cradle center bolt. Just trying to understand what the factory thickness of rubber washer and number of and thickness of any washers. Trying to understand what my starting point should be before any shims.

Also, is it:

CRADLE
METAL WASHER
RUBBER WASHER
FRAME
WASHER
METAL LOCK WASHER
NUT

Just trying to get the basic stack order and the unshimmed thicknesses.

Posted on: 2023/11/22 9:13
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