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1938 Manifold Question
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I have posted a question in the past regarding the attached photo of a shaft that runs through the manifold on a 38 6 cylinder engine. One end has a slot that protrudes out of the manifold. There is an obvious exhaust leak there. It appears that their was a piece attached at one time. Can someone explain to me if there is a way to seal this to stop the exhaust leak. Thank you

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Posted on: 2014/11/24 21:56
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Looks like part of the heat riser valve. Here is a photo from a later manifold but the setup was typical for many years. The slot would be for the thermostatic spring and the other end had a weight.

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Posted on: 2014/11/24 22:16
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I had a similar problem on my '39 6cyl, the shaft and plate were frozen in the closed position and the motor wouldn't run well as it warmed up. I pulled it all out while I had the manifold off, taped the holes for some 3/8 pipe plugs and screwed them in. I cut a piece of 1/16th copper plate to seal off the bottom of the intake side and all is working well.

Posted on: 2014/11/24 22:26
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Hi John,
When I removed the shaft I did not feel resistance as if something was connected to the shaft. I wonder if it would be ok to tap and plug both sides of the manifold ? What do you think ?

Posted on: 2014/11/24 23:16
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Thank you HH 56 for the diagram

Posted on: 2014/11/24 23:18
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If your motor is running OK now but just has the exhaust leak then it would certainly be worth a try to tap and plug the holes. You could easily fix this later on if you have the manifold off the car by making some press in bushings.

Posted on: 2014/11/25 5:59
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Thank you John , the engine runs great, I think I will do just as you said.

Posted on: 2014/11/25 7:38
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We run into issue fairly often at our restoration shop as many other engines besides Packard used a similar design. We normally remove the shaft, flap, and spring. Then enlarge the holes install bushings and then fitting the bushings to the shaft. In some cases we will make a new shaft as they can have grooves worn into them from years of use. We then reassemble and lubricate with graphite. Think of it like a throttle shaft on a Carb. A good machinist should be able to do it for you if needed.

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Posted on: 2014/11/25 8:42
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