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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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You want an L-8, L-6 was only used in 1934; 1935-1939 seniors all used the L-8. They are essentially the same except for the configuration of the inlet and outlet.

Posted on: 2019/10/18 15:32
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Kevinpackard....if your car has a green leather interior, it is the one restored by Jerry T. in Texas. I saw it at the Texas Packard Meet in Salado right after it was restored.

Posted on: 2019/10/18 18:53
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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something looks funky about that filter to me...are you SURE that hasn't already been converted...in other words, try unscrewing it...the center lip no longer looks like the original folded seam.

Posted on: 2019/10/18 21:21
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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by Owen_Dyneto on 2019/10/18 14:32:16

You want an L-8, L-6 was only used in 1934; 1935-1939 seniors all used the L-8. They are essentially the same except for the configuration of the inlet and outlet.


Thanks Owen. I'll get the L-8 ordered!

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by Bob and Gail Supina on 2019/10/18 17:53:56

Kevinpackard....if your car has a green leather interior, it is the one restored by Jerry T. in Texas. I saw it at the Texas Packard Meet in Salado right after it was restored.


Bob, it's definitely that car!
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As a side note, I was able to attend Salado one of the years we lived in Texas, and had a great time. That was probably 10 years back. My folks came down to visit our little family one of those years, and dad saw the Packard was for sale. He went up to check it out and ended up buying it and shipping to Washington. It's a very clean car and seems to have been well-taken care of. The green interior was a little interesting at first, but it's grown on me. The wheel color and pinstripe are matched to it, which is a nice touch.

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by flackmaster on 2019/10/18 20:21:09

something looks funky about that filter to me...are you SURE that hasn't already been converted...in other words, try unscrewing it...the center lip no longer looks like the original folded seam.


The filter does not come apart. I tried again just for kicks. It certainly looks different than the R&A part...I'm assuming then that this filter I have isn't correct? The two halves appear to be pressed together....there is a raised portion on both sides of the junction like some sort of a pressure sleeve. The housing is metal, so I don't think it's the Burr Ripley unit (out of production, right?)

-Kevin

Posted on: 2019/10/18 22:36
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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We're gearing up to begin reassembly on the engine this weekend. The guy who has been doing the engine rebuild is gathering all the parts together in preparation. His shoulders are both bad so he won't be doing the work, just directing me on what to do.

He ran into a problem with the water jacket side of the engine. He thinks that this is the major reason why the engine overheated and cracked the block in the first place.

Inside this jacket is an insert:
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Which looks like this:
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His concern is that this part doesn't seem to be "right". On other similar cars/engines he's found that this insert is much more detailed. The holes on this insert don't line up at all with the gap in the cylinder block between cylinders.

Any input on this?? I'm assuming this insert is not correct.

I'm also assuming we'll need to make a new one. Is there any sort of blueprint that lays out where the holes should be and what size?

-Kevin

Posted on: 2019/11/5 20:16
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Repro water jacket side plates to OEM specs have been available pretty much continually for a very long time, I forget who the current actual manufacturer is, but I believe Max and perhaps Kanter have them available.

That crude-looking plate you have may or may not have been the reason for a cracked block, the 1938 320 blocks are rather well-known for cracking. But regardless, I'd get a correctly made plate.

Posted on: 2019/11/5 20:23
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Here are three pics I took of the water jacket plate on my 1937 Super Eight.

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Posted on: 2019/11/5 20:58
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Thanks for the info both of you. I checked with Max Merritt and they are looking to see if they have one in stock. It's been a while since they've sold one so they don't know what the price is.

Just called Kanter and they're in the same situation. Not sure if they have it and no idea on the price.

If none of that works out, then those measurements you provided Bob will be very helpful if we need to make our own insert.

Posted on: 2019/11/6 10:16
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Score! I found a reproduction water jacket made to OEM specs and it's on its way here. The folks at Max Merritt were very helpful. They did not have the water jacket in stock, but were kind enough to pass along the number to someone they knew who made them. I contacted the gentleman and his wife in California and they had one already to go (in steel), and it's going out tomorrow.

I talked to the mechanic helping us with the engine and he said the original water jacket is getting pretty thin in a few spots due to old corrosion so it's better to replace anyways.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2019/11/6 15:53
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Re: 1938 Super 8 1605 - adventures with a newbie
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Maybe this is the same, contact for manufacturer of water jacket plate, robertspac@sbcglobal.net.

Posted on: 2019/11/6 15:59
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