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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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That's exactly what I'm hoping to avoid!

Posted on: 2020/3/25 17:37
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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However, as it is it would likely get scrapped or hot-rodded so I'm trying to make it mostly complete and driveable in order to give it a better chance to survive intact.


Amen! Not every old car is a viable "full" restoration candidate these days with the sky high cost of parts and labor. But as you say, you are giving this car a high likelihood of survival, and that's what is important.

To me at least, it's more fun to have a car that's not perfect but can be driven and enjoyed, versus a car that is so perfect that it just sits covered up in the garage.

Keep saving them Don!

Posted on: 2020/3/25 20:19
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Although I'm not currently at the shop, I'm still working on the car remotely by obtaining parts that it needs. One such part is the exhaust tail pipe which isn't there at all so nothing to use as a pattern and it is not even similar to the tail pipe used on passenger cars. Not only is it considerably longer but it also has bends that locate the part behind the axle along the right chassis rather than straight out between the spare tire well and gas tank.

Having said that, I DO have the original blueprint but so far I've not found anyone with the ability to make the pipe from it. Any ideas?

Posted on: 2020/4/22 15:08
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Years back, small exhaust shops could eliminate the need for an extensive inventory of pipes by just stocking a few different diameters and lengths and using a machine called
(IIRC) a Luth Bend-o-Graph. The machine formed a finished pipe from a set of dimensions programmed into it via IBM punchcards. If such a machine were in use today, I suppose a clever person who had the importance dimensions could program it to make just about any configuration.

Posted on: 2020/4/22 15:41
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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From what I gather, Classic Tube has a similar machine as a CNC for bending tubes but they can't do anything as large as a tail pipe.

Posted on: 2020/4/22 15:44
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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You might contact one of the classic exhaust people such as Waldron or a vendor who does most of his business on ebay such as this one and see if they might have the pattern or info or maybe even could use your print.

If that is a non starter then I would imagine the exhaust system is the same from the manifold up to and including the muffler. If you could get a sedan print you could compare the two and if similar enough perhaps order a premade exhaust for a 127" Patrician or 300 and install as much of that as possible. If the tail pipe bends are a similar distance from the bumper a local muffler shop could probably either add a length to extend the premade tail pipe to move the bend back or make a new tailpipe to fit.

Posted on: 2020/4/22 15:59
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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It's only the tail pipe that I need and it is entirely different than any sedans. Waldron is the company I've been talking with but I think that the blueprint intimidated them as it requires knowledge of trigonometry to be able to come up with some off the bends so I've not heard from them since sending it. The car is in an extremely rural location so it bit going anywhere!

Posted on: 2020/4/22 16:19
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Share your blurprint with Borla East, I'm reasonably confident they could make it. Google Borla East for contact info

Posted on: 2020/4/22 16:27
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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Is the exhaust pipe for your car for that model only, or does it fit other years and models?

Posted on: 2020/4/22 17:15
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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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I had tried Borla East but their site's contact form crashes with an ugly server error and, as I'm hearing impaired, I can't simply call them.

Yes, the tail pipe fits only 2413, 2513, 2613 and 5413. These cars are on the 156" wheelbase and everything about them is huge including the tail pipe. On passenger cars, it goes straight out from the muffler, over the axle, then between the spare tire well and gas tank but on the Henney coaches, it goes over the axle, then angles to the right and follows the frame out to the rear. Even the part that humps over the axle is different since the axle itself is huge!

UPDATE: I found Borla's direct email when I stopped looking at Borla East and have sent them a note so we'll see what happens.

Posted on: 2020/4/22 18:07
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