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Stalin's ZIL 110 "Packard" For sale
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Guscha!! Paging Guscha!!!

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"Ex Dictator Joseph Stalin's parade car, 1276 km from new, EU-registered.
History documented, 2001 fully restored to its original specification with appropriate patina for its age."


* Location: Kannus, Western Finland, Finland
* Year: 1949
* Listed on: 2010-03-26

* Mileage: 793 mi, 1276 km
* Gearbox: Manual
* Fuel type: Petrol


Makela Auto Tuning
Kannus, Finland

Phone: +358 400 263711

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Posted on: 2010/5/17 20:00
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Re: Stalin's ZIL 110 "Packard" For sale
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There have been serious doubts wether this car was Stalins personal vehicle or not moste vintage cars collectors here belive its not the vehicle Stalin used when he was still alive.Never the less, Its a very impressive restoration job that has been done. Maybe Gerd can verify this info.

Posted on: 2010/5/17 23:49
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Re: Stalin's ZIL 110 "Packard" For sale
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Hard to tell from the photos, but that particular car looks to be the same color and style as the one exported last year from the USA to an owner in Sweden. At that time I posted some pictures of that car and perhaps I'll find the time to do some comparisons unless one of you experts on the matter have some other information in that regard.

Posted on: 2010/5/18 7:54
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Re: Stalin's ZIL 110 "Packard" For sale
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Thanks, I had not taken note of those details.

Posted on: 2010/5/18 17:02
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Re: Stalin's ZIL 110 "Packard" For sale
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" ... but that particular car looks to be the same color and style as the one exported last year from the USA to an owner in Sweden..."

Was the car exported to Sweden an American built Packard or a Russian built Zis,Zil or Chaika???

Posted on: 2010/5/18 17:11
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Re: Stalin's ZIL 110 "Packard" For sale
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The offered car probably was ... a Taxi.

Indeed Gerd, I think that might be the case here.In former days in Leningrad (todays St.Petersburg) and Moscow used ZIS and ZIM cars also as taxis, elsewhere including the baltic states these cars where for parade use only. Except some ZIMs that where indeed taxis in the late 60s and 70s in the capital city.
I know several former taxis that where later rebuild, whit new parts and offered as some high Communist party members car. This is a old trick that was done here in the 90s and
some people fell for this trick. In my eyes this is basically selling a rebuild rust bucket to a unsuspecting costumer.

The documentation for this ZIS 110 came from Estonia, in the former papers it says it was a car used on the Haapsalu airstrip (military air base new closed). Yeah, anyone could have written that paper here in the 90s and Gerd proved to us that this car cant be Stalins personal vehicle.

Posted on: 2010/5/19 1:06
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Topic moved to this forum for easier reference later. -mgmt

Posted on: 2010/5/19 10:27
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