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'39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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I believe I have read that the tranny fluid for the '39 110 is the same fluid as the rear dif. I recently changed the rear dif fluid and I used SAE 85W140 limited slip Heavy Duty Hypoid API/GL-5 Plus fluid. First off, I'd like confirmation that I used the right fluid, second, I'd like to make sure I can use the same in the Tranny.

I'm planning on swapping cars for a few weeks with my father in law...I have the best of both worlds, as he has a Morgan +8. I want to make sure I change the fluids before I make the trek for the swap next weekend.

All help is appreciated.

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Scott

Posted on: 2010/6/5 16:46
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Your vehicle doesn't have a limited slip differential so I'd question what affect, if any, those additives might have. If it were mine, unless the product information says it's also acceptable for non-limited slip differentials I'd drain and refill with the same lubricant w/o the limited slip additives. Probably a case of being over-cautious. I've used SAE85W-140 EP hypoid in all my Packard differentials and transmissions and steering gear boxes for many years, never a problem.

Posted on: 2010/6/5 17:19
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Yes to all the above from OD.
The trans in mine didn't like straight 90wt.
Alot quiter and easier to shift whith the 85-140.

Posted on: 2010/6/5 19:53
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Thanks for the reply. What brand of oil do you use and where do you get it? I've tried Napa, but what I bought was what they had. If I want to get the stuff that is not limited slip...what brand should I buy...where do I get it?

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Scott

Posted on: 2010/6/6 21:40
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Lots of brands, over the years I've had Pennzoil, Valvoline, and Mobil. Comes in 5 gallon pails. I'll try to get a product code tomorrow off whatever I have in stock at the moment, but any decent auto parts store should be willing to order it for you.

Posted on: 2010/6/6 22:06
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Scott,

This gear oil may or may not be what your are looking for. I purchased Mobil 600W Cylinder oil #98K814-601260 from here.

Quality Oil Co
Address: 55 N 400 E, Valparaiso, IN 46383
Phone: (219) 462-2951
5 gals @$73.00 with shipping if I remember correctly

Posted on: 2010/6/7 6:14
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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A non-synchro transmission (pre-1932) should use a straight non-foaming mineral gear oil, SAE 160 or so is the general recommendation. A pre-Angleset rear axle (worm or bevel) could use the same, but with a hypoid or Angleset rear axle you MUST use an EP (extreme pressure) lubricant. I personally don't see that 600W cylinder oil is an appropriate replacement for either, at least in the late 20s and newer Packards.

Posted on: 2010/6/7 7:56
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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O_D,
Can you tell me if the 85w140 can be substituted for the SAE 140 as recommended for the transmission and the Econo-drive supplied in my 40 110? If not, any suggestions?
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Steve P

Posted on: 2010/7/6 15:55
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Perhaps. Myself and many others have used 85W-140 EP gear oil in postwar transmissions and overdrives for many years without problems, and I use it in the transmission of my 34 Eight. But the original lubricant for the OD was trans was a straight mineral gear oil without the extreme pressure additives which are present in a hypoid or rear axle lubricant like the 85W-140 and there was a caution years back that such lubricants would attack "yellow" metal (bronze, brass) components of transmissions and ODs. You could perhaps get a way with it, but if the car were mine I'd probably use a straight mineral gear oil in the trans and OD.

Posted on: 2010/7/6 16:13
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Re: '39 Packard 110 Transmission Fluid (& Rear Dif Fluid)
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Thank you very much for the comments and sage advice.

Posted on: 2010/7/6 16:20
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