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Which was the first self-starting Packard?
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Garrett Meadows
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Admittedly, my knowledge of auto-mechanics history is nil, so I may be asking questions that are juvenile at best. That notwithstanding, which Packard model was the first to be a self-starter, as opposed to using a hand-crank.
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Posted on: 2015/1/2 9:59
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Cadillac introduced the electric starter and lighting with its 1912 models. This was a giant leap forward for the automobile as it offered easier operation and improved lighting. Packard, and most other makes, must have followed soon there after. The Packard Model Info section will probably tell us when this took place.

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I looked on the model info section (1912 and 1913), but could not find any information on the question.

Posted on: 2015/1/2 11:47
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Yes, John (JW) is right in saying that Cadillac pioneered this area. Packard followed one year later with the 1-38, which was driven by an L-head (flathead) engine. It was the 1st LHD-Packard. The headline of a related advertisement was: "Where is the crank?"

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Click to see original Image in a new window

Posted on: 2015/1/2 12:15
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Re: Which was the first self-starting Packard?
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That classic ad says it all. I agree, electrical lighting and self-starter as early as 1912 was pretty phenomenal.

Thanks for sharing the image.
Garrett Meadows

Posted on: 2015/1/2 14:51
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Garret, I was in a hurry and inadvertently forgot to mention the Photo Archive as the source of the above shown ad. John (423reed) deserves the credit.

Posted on: 2015/1/2 16:42
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Gumby

Almost everybody had electric start and generating system by 1914. It was such a crying need that there was no reason to not install it. There were many systems in the market besides the Delco system. Dodge, for one, used a starter/generator in the same unit.

The holdout, of course, was Ford. They did not offer it until 1919 and then as an option. Post 1919 Model T's without a starter still carried oil cowl lamps.

Maybe Henry felt the starter polluted the purity of the "Universal Car" or something, but I'm willing to bet it had to do with paying royalties, and his vexed relationship with Cadillac. He founded what became Cadillac before the Ford Motor Company, but got thrown out by the bankers for fooling around with race cars.

Which is why he was carried to his grave in Packard hearse

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John Harley

Posted on: 2015/1/2 18:16
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