FWIW, my '56 Patrician had the wheels the lighter of the two green colors, I can't remember the trim code, and it's too late to go check. I do know my car is Shannon green and another green, I just can't remember which one is darker.

Could be original. Both repros I acquired (several years apart, different vendors) are dated July 1, 1956 and have rather bland images. While it is hard to tell for sure, the posted pictures appear to be sharper or cleaner than what I have.

Ahh...now it makes sense. Yup mine is missing. I have one on the way to me as we speak.

Thanks all.

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the spring works from 51 on. merrit wanted 19.00 for a spring so i ran to the junk yard, found a nice 51 200 sedan and viola!!!!!!!!!!!!! myu 54 convert now has a spring loaded door. ill try to take a digital in the next few days.

john

Guys does this look like an original parts list? If so I may try to pick it up for the website.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=180124374151&rd=1&rd=1

Unless one of you guys has a better one that I can scan.

I don't have the PI manual, but would like to obtain one. However, based on inspection of some unrestored originals I can add the following.

Wheel on Caribbeans are usually the mid-band color. My Hardtop is painted in MKN and the wheels are Scottish Heather (K).

The rest of the Packards and Clippers are usually the main body color - the color of the hood and tops of the front fenders on two-tone cars. My Four Hundred parts car is painted in ML, and the wheels are Persian Aqua (L). My '56 Patrician was originally painted in MR, and the wheels are Mojave Tan (R). My dad's Exec was painted in MF, and the wheels were Holland Blue (F).

The one exception in my stable is my first '56 Patrcian, paint MV two-tone; the wheels are not Corsican Black (V), but Tangier Red (J). Coincidentally, I have seen some Cadillacs painted in all-white, but with red wheels.

Except for the one '56 Pat, I had generally concluded that the wheels were always painted the darker colors on two-tone cars. However, I believe Joel Ray has an original unrestored Four Hundred doesn't follow that rule of thumb, but I cannot recall the details. Perhaps he can refresh my memory.

Meanwhile, anyone else care to throw in another $0.02 from their unrestored car?

Well, I'm just thinking that if the lifter noise is connected to premature wear of the pump, then the vac pump isn't at the root of that problem - else there would have been no need to advise Studebaker dealers of the sump tube kit (effectiveness of that kit not withstanding).

Wouldn't the pump gears be self-centering, under pressure, and help keep the driving shaft squarely in its bore - at least until there is significant wear of the gears and separator plate?

One problem might be that there never was a bushing for the driving shaft or - as you discovered - the Packard pump lacks an oiling channel for the driving shaft that the SBC pump has. If that channel had been there from day on, I bet the bore and shaft would have lasted a helluva lot longer - even with a sacrificial casting as it were.

As for the additional load on the Packard V8 oil pump, the vacuum pump is quite similar to the vacuum motors that drive so many air tools - just works in reverse. As such, I'm having a hard time visualizing the additional load as a problem when the pump is merely pulling only inches of vacuum - unless it is binding internally. Perhaps we ought to put a few drops of air too oil down the vac pump's intake pipe on occasion.

It's interesting to note that a 1957 Buick shop manual I have shows an oil pump with a vacuum pump riding piggyback, but that old Nailhead V8 never had the reputation for oiling issues that Packard V8 owners have had to endure. There's still a piece of the puzzle missing here that needs to be found.

One of these days, I'm gonna have to get out to the Funny Farm and my dad's old Exec (which never had a lick of oiling problems or lifter noise) and yank the engine for some serious forensic work so we can all compare notes.

Meanwhile, let's keep collecting data in this good thread.

I wouldnt mind a picture so I can understand where it attaches.

thanks

Well now, that makes sense, dosen't it! My car is solid Norwegian Forest green as well