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Re: Wade's Workshop
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G'day Mal,
"BLOODY MARVELLOUS" I've learnt more on how my car is put together with all the great pictures you've posted. Wade did look a bit apprehensive from time to time but it seemed like he had a team of bloke's with him on the body to chassis fit up.
I bet Wade can't wait to get on to the next stage whatever route that might be. Please keep all the info coming as soon as you get it Mal.
Regards Terry

Posted on: 2010/11/6 9:11
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Congratulations to Wade and support staff on this milestone. I'm sure rejoining the body with the chassis is a celebrated occasion....keep up the good work.
DAF

Posted on: 2010/11/6 10:20
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Monday 8th November 2010

With the workshop now able to accommodate another Packard a queue is forming at the door. However before they could be attended to Old Blue, to use a horse racing term, pulled up lame yesterday and requires urgent attention. Yesterday was a PACA run to Kurrajong Heights in the foothills of the Blue Mountains west of Sydney. 7 Packards and 1 Studebaker attended an open garden day at a house owned by a contributor to an Australian car magazine. This guy has an Austin Healey 100/4 as well as a restoration project Healey Saloon, apparently the only one of it's type left in the world. So besides the gardens there was also the added attraction of cars. Anyway going over the top of the last steep section up to this guys house strange noises started to emanate from Old Blues diff. Scared the living daylights out of Gina who, as usual, was riding in style in the back seat when the noises started. After the open garden, we then continued a little further up the mountains and had lunch at the Kurrajong Heights Hotel. From there Chris(Starliner) and I followed Old Blue most of the way back to the workshop in case assistance was required. Fortunately it wasn't, and Wade and Gina made it there safely changing over to Big Red for the remainder of the trip home.

So first up in the workshop was getting Old Blue out of Big Red's parking spot then backing Old Blue into the space next to The Fossil. Still leaves a vacant space and I believe the TJ Richards bodied '39 Six will probably fill that on Thursday. But back to Old Blue, hubcaps off, lugbolts loosened, jack under diff, jackstands under axle, tailshaft disconnected, flexible brake line clamped, brake drums off, clean up of brakes and backing plates, removal of same, axles removed, diff centre loosened and then removed. Well that's the sequence of events to remove the Pumpkin from the car and it went pretty well, Used the puller on the brake drums with the right side requiring much more effort than the left which came off easily. Removing the pumpkin also had it's share of minor problems plus I didn't realise until today that Old Blue had the older style pumpkin which fits the diff housing at an angle. Wait, I'm wrong! Again? If I remember rightly Eric did mention some time ago his speedster diff from a Junior '37 is like that. The two problems with removing the diff were: 1) the copper washers which had spread and held on to the studs impeding the pumpkin in it's removal, and 2) The long bolt which goes through the top of the banjo into the body of the pumpkin, all the other studs go through the flange of the pumpkin and are accessible from underneath. Once this "hidden" bolt was found, which is 25/32" by the way and only time I've ever seen this size spanner and socket used, removal of the pumpkin proceeded in a much easier fashion. Pumpkin balanced nicely on the floor jack and was rolled out from under Old Blue just like that.

When Wade had been disconnecting the tailshaft it was evident the pinion shaft bolt was loose, but what other damage might there be? Teeth on crown wheel, pinion and sun gears all looked OK on initial inspection but some of the bearings weren't looking or feeling as good. Clean up and marking of parts was followed by further dis-assembly. Pressing the bearings off the hemisphere and the large pinion bearing presents a whole lot of challenges without the specific tools required to do so. But with some improvisation along the way, all but one have now been removed. This gave Wade all the cups and cones he needed in order to phone ABC Bearings and set them on the search for new bearings. ABC are also looking for new wheel bearings, one of which appeared to be fine but the other definitely needed replacement. Just to be sure all will be replaced.

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Posted on: 2010/11/8 1:44
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Re: Wade's Workshop
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Thursday 11th November 2010

Birthday celebrations today, per the title of this song. And how did I spend the day? Why at the workshop of course, no better way to do so!

First up it was into Wade's ute and off to KevinA's to pick up a '34 front axle. Now don't get excited Mat, yours is much better, see pic. Then on the way back, stopped at JohnM's to pick up the TJ Richards bodied '39 Six. Very tight driveway, with a drop on one side and house on the other, which Wade negotiated three times. Twice in moving John's Honda out, then backing it in again, and also getting the '39 out. Once out, we were off to see Stan to see how the '34's water pump machining was progressing. Trouble was it wasn't. Stan had had a stroke some months back, which Wade knew about, and Stan had said he was now OK to do "these little jobs". However the medical profession has other ideas and when Stan's wife found out about "the little job" the water pump was hidden to save Stan from himself! Now we fully understand the circumstances, another machinist is now required for any "little jobs", and we wish Stan a full and speedy recovery from this setback.

Back at the workshop and, following some shuffling of cars, the '39 was backed into the vacant Packard space, jacked up and put on jackstands. John's list of requirements wasn't long but in his detailed manner it looked daunting at first sight. Boiled down to the trans - jumping out of 1st and 2nd, the tailshaft - inspect and renew the universal joints if required and remove the tow bar. Because I'd followed the '39 back to the workshop I added this to the list, fix left brake(stop) light. First job done was removing the tow bar(hitch). While I undid the bolts holding it to the rear bumper Wade was underneath separating the trailer wire plug wiring from the harness. Then Wade turned him attention to the 6 bolts holding the tow bar to the rear of the chassis. Wade also had to remove the rear muffler bracket to enable the tow bar to be slid out.

Next was the brake light problem. Took off the bezels and lenses from both sides and the filaments in the globes looked to be OK. And a point here, both globes(bulbs or lamps?) have the locating pins on the same axis. The other Packard ones both Wade and I have seen are offset! But Wade said from the mess of wires underneath it was more likely that the problem lay there. First thing though was to clean up the contacts for the bulbs and, what do you know, that worked! Put the lenses and bezels back on then ran a number of tests for both tail and stop lights, all worked. Wade then went back under the '39 and cleaned up the mess as best he could. Another set of tests and we were back to scratch with the left light now back to non-working mode! Wade wriggled wires without any effect so it was into un-taping what had just been taped up. More wriggling of wires and we had contact, but it was intermittent. So a number of wires with suspect connectors were given new connectors and re-tested. Success! Taped up again and you could almost see light at the end of the tunnel, better still you could see clear and bright tail and stop lights!

Then a visitor - Noel! Noel had brought over a steering wheel which Wade will take with him tomorrow. Why tomorrow? Because tomorrow, Wade and PeterL are setting forth for the Bendigo Swap Meet Australia's largest annual swap meet. Bendigo is in the State of Victoria about 500+ miles south west then from there after the swap meet they will push on to Adelaide another 400 miles west. Wade is picking up some stuff from RobT in Adelaide, so Wade is delivering the steering wheel Noel had picked on Rob's behalf on his recent US visit. Another thing Noel brought with him was a calendar. So what? It's the calendar season isn't it with Christmas coming up? Yes, but what a calendar, it has MY Packard in it! The pic's in the calender were taken by a local photographer when we had our display day on Kangaroo Island during the Rally in September. For those who'd like a copy they can be bought on-line through this link. Note, I don't receive any recompense from the sale of these calenders, just putting it "out there" for others to be able to enjoy MY Packard! Oh, and a few others too of course, as well as a ring-in Pierce Arrow(but it is a very nice car)!

Later in the afternoon, that is after a delicious BBQ lunch courtesy of Rick, attention was then turned to The Fossil. Aim was to install the windscreen but before doing that a number of parts had to be installed being the brackets on which it slides out, the locks on the bottom and the rubber around the outer edge. The windscreen frame has been re-chromed so all the holes around the edge were re-tapped to remove any plating build-up. The sliding brackets and the bottom edge locks were installed then it was the turn of the rubber. This proved a somewhat frustrating experience with, it must be said, after about 1/2 hour all of 1" installed! Fortunately at this point PeterL arrived so Wade was distracted before his frustrations turned violent. Have never seen that, yet! But there have been a lot, a whole lot, of magic words as various times. Wade was happy to put the '34 windscreen aside at this point and conduct Peter through the various half done projects in the shop. Left them to getting organised for the trip. They'll be back, probably mid next week.

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Posted on: 2010/11/11 5:22
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Thursday 18th November 2010

Don from Al mentioned, while in the Chatroom with a number of other PackardInfo members, whether he'd be able to find the current owner of a '37 120 Coupe he sold and shipped to Australia back in 1984? Don had some info from another Aussie PackardInfo member WarrenJ, Packard Downunder, on the chain of possession since it arrived in Melbourne, about 500 miles south of Sydney, back in the eighties. First owner was GeorgeM, then went to NoelW, then to DaleC.ll.t who had restored and repainted the car(dark blue, he thought). I said to Don there was a DaleC.ll.t in the PACA Register of Members and I'd see what I could find out. That was last week, this week I started the hunt. Rang DaleC.ll.t but it turned out he'd never owned a '37 120 Coupe but suggested there was a DaleC.ll..s who had owned such a Coupe and it might well be him. Only trouble was the number for DaleC.ll..s was disconnected because he'd moved. Not to worry rang Fred, pepepackard, instead. Fred has a '37 sedan so would probably be able to help. Fred suggested I call StuartR who had also owned a '37 Coupe and that if anyone would know he would. Rang StuartR who advised he did know that DaleC.ll..s had had a '37 Coupe and would contact him on my behalf. Stuart also imparted the information that he still had the front mudguards(fenders) off the '37 I was enquiring about because he'd swapped them with DaleC.ll..s for a pair of sidemount spare equipped 'guards! Later, received a call from DaleC.ll..s himself and it turns out he restored the Coupe. Dale changed out the Pontiac V8, it was powered with, by using a '47 282 even though it also came with a '35 120 engine but Dale preferred the '47. Dale was also able to advise that the body wood had been replaced by metal tubing(Don did mention the wood was not good) by NoelW who had also converted it to RHD. And Dale had also repainted the car brown with orange wheels, that gave me a clue as to who owned it because I'd seen a '37 120 Coupe like that here in Sydney back in 2007 and 2008. Then, instead of contacting the Sydney owner of the Coupe directly, I contacted Noel, tabletennisport, who knows the Sydney owner, LesF, much better than I do and Noel was going to talk to him about it. I also emailed Don about what I'd found and sent him the pic's I had of the Coupe from 2007 and 2008. And today Noel was able to confirm the Coupe was the one restored by DaleC.ll..s but that it had at least one other owner before LesF purchased it. And talking with the the guys this morning, they picked up when I mentioned the orange wheels and said that DaleC.ll..s always painted the wheels of the cars he restored orange!

Why post this story here? Because I'd arranged to meet Noel at the workshop this morning where he was calling in to drop off the NOS '36 120 water pump from Mat, packard34, for Wade, Wade's Shed. But on arriving at the workshop I found Wade and PeterL already there, having arrived back from their southern sojourn last night. They had unloaded, with John's help, the Crypton Diagnostic Centre machine Wade had picked up in Adelaide. Last night they'd unloaded the Allen Engine Analyzer of Fred's at Wade's home because it was more portable than the over 6' high Crypton. And speaking of Fred, when I phoned him a couple of days ago he was talking about being invaded by cockroaches and especially 2 huge ones from New South Wales. Now New South Wales is my state and the term cockroaches had been applied to NSW sporting teams some years ago as part of some rivalry promotion propaganda and it's stuck! And it's also come to have a broader meaning, applying to anything or anybody from NSW! Missed it at the time Fred, but now I know you were referring to Wade and PeterL when they called in to see you! They'd also brought back the steering wheel they'd taken with them for RobT along with an even worse wheel of Rob's. Then shortly after that Noel arrived complete with the water pump and some other parts and equipment. Fortuitously Noel was on his way to TonyW's so was able to take both steering wheels with him with the intention of Tony restoring the better of the two wheels. Noel also had the grill shell for his '41 160 along with 3 of the slats which had been rechromed by Peter Packard's plater, they look very,very nice, and Tony is going to re-assemble the grill for Noel.

And there I had to leave the workshop till next week. Granddaughters this afternoon and donating blood plasma tomorrow takes care of the rest of this week, no time for Packards! Oh, and what about the swap meet at Bendigo, how did that go? In a word, wet, in fact very wet and to make it worse no Packard parts!

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Posted on: 2010/11/17 21:54
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Don, I might have opened a can of worms here about the '37 Coupe. Looks like I "shot from the lip" and it's come back to haunt me! On one hand, I'm told "it was never left hand drive (can tell by looking at the firewall, there is no evidence of conversion) and never had a V8 motor". On the other hand I have a guy saying he provided a set of clutch and brake pedals, from his '37 parts car, for the conversion from LHD to RHD. I also think the firewall could have been replaced because at least one other '37 owner here in Oz, Bill B, has had to do that, although for a different reason, see this thread. And apologies for calling Bill's '37 a Coupe Roadster in that thread, it's a Convertible Coupe, isn't that right Flackmaster? Anyway I'm now trying to obtain further information to verify whether Les's '37 really is the Coupe in question as well as the other aspects now in dispute. And just thinking of firewalls, although if it has been swapped this won't help, do you know the Thief Proof Number and Body ID Plate numbers of the '37 you sent to Australia?

Posted on: 2010/11/19 0:04
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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TO OZSTATMAN & DON AL, I THINK THE CAR YOUR'E LOOKING FOR IS ONE THAT WAS IMPORTED INTO SYDNEY BY JOHN DEBRINCAT (CHEV GUY) & SOLD TO KEVIN SHEPHERD. THE CAR WAS VERY ORIGINAL & PAINT COLOUR WAS GOLD. I SAW THIS CAR IN A WORKSHOP AT COWRA,NSW LAST WEEK WHILE RETURNING FROM BENDIGO.HOPE THIS MAY BE OF HELP. REGARDS WHEELS.

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Wheels,
First up, to PackardInfo. If I remember correctly I spoke with you a couple of years ago about my dropping in to say "G'day" but it all fell apart on my end. However I will get there, hopefully in my '41 Coupe, one day.

Concerning the gold '37 Coupe, from what I understand this is also owned by LesF. However since my previous post I have again spoken with DaleC.ll..s and he advised:

Dale cut off the engine mounts for the Pontiac V8 in the coupe and then ground back to the frame and painted. The Pontiac used the Packard trans so there were no modifications there. Also it had been converted to a different front shock setup, these mounts were also cutoff, ground back, painted and replaced. Dale thinks it would be difficult to distinguish where the engine and shock mounts had been which were cut off. Regarding the paint, Dale painted it brown with the orange wheels. GeorgeM had painted it white when he had the Coupe and when it came to Dale it was still white . Dale said the white paint was in good condition but he preferred another colour so rubbed back the white and painted over it with the brown. But after some months when a few little bubbles and cracks appeared white could be seen. The Coupe also had white or very light beige LEATHER upholstery which was very good so Dale retained it. From the pic's there is an interior one which shows the upholstery in Les's brown Coupe as a very light colour. Dale also advised that the owner before Les was DickN in Wagga Wagga and Dale had read in The Packardian about the Coupe going from Dick to Les.

Based on that, I doubt the gold coupe would be the car in question, although you never know.

I am also trying to gain a contact number for GeorgeM to learn what he can tell me about the importation of his Coupe, the conversion to RHD and anything else which might have a bearing on this matter.

Posted on: 2010/11/20 5:07
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Ozstatman wrote: Thursday 11th November 2010.....Aim was to install the windscreen.......then it was the turn of the rubber. This proved a somewhat frustrating experience with, it must be said, after about 1/2 hour all of 1" installed! .....
That's where I'd left Wade before he travelled south a week and a half ago. And this morning that what I found him at, but with considerably more progress made. Aided by a can of talcum powder Wade had about 1/3 of the rubber installed around the edge of the windscreen. Still not easy but easier than before, with a few holes on each side of the windscreen proving the hardest places to get the rubber positioned. Once the re-rubbering of the windscreen frame was complete the windscreen could be installed in The Fossil. So, after a protective old quilt was laid on the '34's cowl, I held the windscreen in place while Wade screwed the long hinge to the top of the windscreen. Took a bit of fiddling to align holes and ensure the screws went in straight, it being very easy to cross-thread them.

During the re-rubbering exercise Harvey had arrived with a gift for Wade, a pair of '37 senior bumper over-riders, which need some attention but can be brought back to respectability. Harvey was also there to pick up the Packard Service Manual & Tool Catalog he'd lent me almost 12 months ago! At that time these posts ensued......
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Ozstatman wrote: Monday 30th November 2009.....At this point Harvey arrived with a couple of things for me and some for Wade. For me.....an old Packard Service Manual, titled Tool Catalog, which I'll have scanned and uploaded to the Site soon. Only problem is it's missing the first 12 pages......

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BigKev wrote: Mal, looking forward to seeing the tool catalog. It should be a nice companion to the KM Post War tool catalog.

Well it may now come to pass that I can get a scanned copy uploaded on the Site. First up was getting my scanner up and running, that only took about 9 months. Then there was the scanning, did 120+ pages at that time, now had to do the other 40+ this morning in a mild panic after Harvey rang to say he wanted to pick the book up today! All I have to do now is have my Tech Support Guy, #1 Son, guide me through that process. Also learned today that Harvey had owned Mat's '34 years ago and had sold it so he could buy "Elanor", the '34 Wade is now restoring. Over the years Harvey has had a lot of Packards.

Next task was a trip over to ABC Bearings to pick up the bearings for Old Blues diff rebuild, only trouble is there's still part of one coming. Plus the rear axle bearings are turning out to be very expensive, over $600 through ABC, or about $400 from a major US Packard parts vendor. Wade's still looking for an alternative and almost came up with one from ABC being Ford F250 rear axle bearings, same dimensions except for the shaft diameter being about 0.030" different, but at a cost of about $80 a pair much more affordable. Back at the workshop removed the remaining bearing from the diff hemisphere courtesy of a $4 puller Wade bought at the Bendigo swap, a brand new tool at a bargain price and it's more than paid for itself already! New bearings pressed onto the hemisphere, a bearing pressed onto the pinion shaft and then a cup fitted into the pumpkin, the other cup for the pumpkin is still coming. Robbed a '38 trans of it's fill and drain plugs for the pumpkin because the pumpkin's plugs were bashed and rounded off somewhat.

That done, turned to John's '39 Six. Wade had been doing some research on the column shift and had found that the linkages actually require some friction in the setup to ensure they work effectively, they are not to be lubed! See pic's from manual below. Because this is a RHD Packard it's hard to access the rods and linkages involved because of the proximity of the manifolds and exhaust pipe to them. But have disconnected both linkages from the steering column and removed one set of rods and levers. Wade is now mulling over the best way to address John's shifting problems and jumping out of gear.

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Posted on: 2010/11/22 5:26
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Re: Wade's Workshop
Home away from home
Home away from home

Mathew Rattray
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That would have seen a sight for Harvey to see both the 34's he once owned together...

Attached is a pic of the 34 when Harvey owned the vehicle, Harvey sold it to Alan Maunsell only lives at Orage 1.5hr drive from where I live.

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Posted on: 2010/11/22 7:32
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