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Re: Dedicated Grievance/Complaint Thread
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BH
PeterG -

I think you know that I try to base my case more on the objective than the subjective - though it's often a blurry line that separates the two.

Yes, some level of moderation may be necessary, but for quite sometime the Packard DF had no official moderator whatsoever. We pretty much settled our own differences of opinion (and were once held up as an example of that by a site admin in another AACA Forum, IIRC). Once in awhile, a site admin chimed in at the Packard DF with some food for thought and nothing more than that. We follow that same good old model here, and I feel that it works better. Yes - there are times when BigKev has to step in, since he's technically the site owner, but it's not that often.

Problem is, moderation not only became official in the Packard DF at the AACA site, but also had the appearance of being highly biased and often personal.

Now, telling someone to go somewhere else if they don't like the way the Forum is being run hardly compares to the PFH situation. PFH actually has a few supporters within the AACA Forums, but - IMHO - he generally does little more than bash: 1) PMCC in its post-WWII form (when people like Nance ought to be applauded for keeping a tired old company afloat as long as they did), 2) any Packard that doesn't fit his personal preference in motorcars, 3) and anyone that likes either of the first two. As such, any friend of PFH is no friend of mine. However, others that you may feel have had a negative impact on your Forum have actually contributed quite a lot to the discussion and the greater good of the hobby - as well as generate plenty of genuine interest in your Forums. Some have even received awards from other clubs for their efforts in support of the hobby.

As for Misc Chat, I'm sure you did take great pleasure in eliminating it, but you know it had been in the Board's crosshairs for quite some time. Yet, that hasn't stopped the flame wars over there. In fact, you quickly had you hands full over at the BCA Forum last December when you started deleting threads regarding Pearl Harbor.

IMHO, there's nothing said in this Forum that you wouldn't hear at a car show. All things considered, I've seen a lot worse behavior erupt on the fields at Fall Hershey than in the AACA Forums or here, at P'info.

Anyway, I hope you'll keep watching P'Info as the best is yet to come.

Posted on: 2008/7/8 8:40
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Re: New to Packards
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PhilJohnson
Thanks for the replies, I ordered a new fuel pump so hopefully I'll get some round the block cruising time in on the ole' Clipper this weekend.

Still haven't found anything that resembles a dipstick, I'll have to look at it a little closer later. The shift pattern is not the standard PRNDL instead it is PNDLR..

Posted on: 2008/7/8 8:08
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Re: Packard Nat'L Meet in Des Moines
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BH
Many thanks for contributing to P'Info. It doesn't matter what club - if any - someone belongs to, but Packard enthusiasts always enjoy seeing the cars displayed in public.

Posted on: 2008/7/8 7:44
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Re: 1953 Packard Corporate Limo
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Ozstatman
G'day Svarel,

Welcome to the site. Could you please include your Packards in the Owner Registry if you haven't already done so, including pic's and history, if known?


Posted on: 2008/7/8 5:52
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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Re: Mal's '41 120 Coupe
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Ozstatman
Tuesday 8th July 2008

Workshop only in the afternoon, Wade was cleaning up the '39 110 gearbox which he'd disassembled since I last saw him yesterday. As he was loading the pieces into the parts washer I included the dis-assembled fuel pump pieces because I was expecting the guy to arrive to do the stud removal at any time. In the meantime, after taking off the brass nuts from the 3 manifold studs that had detached from the block I cleaned the 3 studs, 9 brass nuts and 1 steel nut. Then when the stud guy still hadn't arrived called him to discover the small jobs he'd been doing had all grown into big jobs. So now he's coming tomorrow morning at 8am and that'll be my earliest start at the workshop!

Onto the fuel pump re-assembly, had all the new parts, cleaned all the pieces, now to work. By work, I mean watching Wade do about 90% of the hands on work of course! He'd spent a bit of time, while I was on the wire wheel, studying the '41 Manual. I'd also done some study, last night, reading the Motors Auto Repair Manual I have and it differed from the one Wade has at the workshop. But not to worry, as both sources provided help along the way. First the valves were fitted in the case of the pump. Then the oil seal washers and spring were fitted to the other half of the case. Some difficulties were experienced in firstly inserting the replacement seal but, with further examination and deduction because it differed from the seal that came out of the pump, it was successfully inserted. Next was compressing the diaphram and bolting the 2 halves of the pump together to assist in the next phase of hooking the pump arm to the slot in the diaphram post. It was very uncooperative to say the least but at last we managed to align and loosely bolt it together. And I say "we" here as I did get to turn a screwdriver at this point. Next was hooking the arm to the diaphram post, a task necessitating a
an alignment rod through the pump arm pivot bush and the alignment rod is driven out when the new pivot rod is driven in. Almost all done, as the diaphram has to be tensioned before the 10 screws holding the 2 halves of the pump are tightened properly. Here I was also hands on as Wade held the pump pushing against the lever while I tightened the screws up. The metal "bowl" hasn't been tightened on as yet for 2 reasons. 1) The inside of the bowl has some rust which I'll clean out and POR-15 tomorrow, and 2) There is a "mechanism" or "device" inside the bowl which we need an explanation for. See the anodized piece in the pic's please. It may be a filter with 2 nuts on posts which do not screw off but will screw down. 2 questions: Is it a filter, or if not, what is it? And should the nuts be screwed down or opened to the full extent of their travel?

I'll be left to my own devices over the next few days as Wade and Gina are going up the coast in the '37 Super 8 as it's their wedding anniversary. Sorry but I didn't ask how many years. The problem with the Super 8 hasn't been fixed but the carby guy believes it is because the seals for the new accelerator pump are being made "bigger" now to allow for wear on most Super 8's of that period and therefore preventing the pump from operating successfully. Wade is going to drive it for a while with this limitation in mind to see if it will free it up with use.

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Posted on: 2008/7/8 5:42
Mal
/o[]o\
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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Re: Packard Headlights
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Eric Boyle
I would try this: Purple Metal Polish

I used this stuff on my '25 Packard headlights, and it works great. I also have used it on my silver pocket watch cases, silver and copper coins, and chrome. It's the best stuff I've ever come across. One thing though, make sure you rinse off your part with water, as it will leave a film if you don't get it all off. It WILL turn whatever rag you use black as night, and that tells you it's working.

Posted on: 2008/7/8 2:58
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Re: Packard Headlights
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Peter Packard
G'day Matthew, The relay suggestion is a good move to lessen the volts drop at the lights. You do not specify what wattage the Halogen inserts are, but if they are 45CP each then with relays you will be showing at least a 15 amp charge at the ammeter driving with the headlamps on, to maintain a fully charged battery. I would agree that Owen's suggestion to resilver the reflectors is a good way to go, although you may be able to polish them. We used to use "lamp Black" but I have not seen it for years. Under no circumstances should a wax type polish, such as a furniture polish be used. I understand that Silvo and Brasso are also not suitable. I have used jewellers rouge to polish them in the past. It is usually easily obtained from jewellers. There may be some advice available from forum members on other suitable products. best regards Peter Toet

Posted on: 2008/7/8 2:52
I like people, Packards and old motorbikes
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Re: Dedicated Grievance/Complaint Thread
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Great advice.

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Re: Dedicated Grievance/Complaint Thread
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Eric Boyle
Not in the least. I for one don't dictate what people can or cannot say about anything anywhere. You on the other hand, do. I prefer that people have a word on vendors, whether or not they are trustworthy, you prefer to only approve those who line you/your club's pockets. Also, I consider the members of Packard Info kinda like the U.S. was in the late 1700's, moving away from dictatorial powers that be, and onto our own independence. This website gets under you skin so bad because we can do and say things here that you cannot control, and since you're all about control, it really irks you. You have a need to control, a real desire to put people under your thumb. You can't do it here, so why don't you just kindly leave, and don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out.

We threw out your tea, so leave us be!

Posted on: 2008/7/8 0:10
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Anonymous
Re: Dedicated Grievance/Complaint Thread
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Sounds like we have a lot in common.

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