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Or am I reading the cast date wrong?

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Yes, they continued making some Packard service parts into the 60s. I have a 56 power window motor in a Studebaker parts box (not Studebaker-Packard) with a date stamped on the part of 1963. In the Studebaker-Packard service letters during the late 50s and early 60s you will also find the occasional notice of some service parts becoming unavailable and being replaced with substitute parts.

i thought automakers had to make parts for 10 years, packard ended 56, so 65 would be the end, thats about the time stude ended

I'll take a wild guess on this:

Look at the TRANSMISSION bolt hole spacing on the bellhousing. I'm not familiar enuf with the Packard std trans as well as pictures can be deceiving.

But it appears to me that the trans bolt hole spacing is rather LARGE for an AUTOMOTIVE or lite truck application.

So my guess is that some quanttity of bellhousings were made probably for some mediam to heavy truck application. OR some other non-passenger car application.

Probably MAck truck.

With Packard dealers shutting down, or being shut down, I wonder how decisions were made to produce parts? Based on what was in Packard warehouses?

what i understand on STD trans, they were stude trans, borg warner.

for the lark and trucks they used that trans, looks like stude kept making bell housings,, maybe ultra problems,

people were putting in the std trans,

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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

There's no evidence or documentation I've seen which substantiates the use of the Packard V8 engine or transmission factory installed in trucks.

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The standard/manual shift bellhousings were a Packard V8-only part. It did not fit the Studebaker V8s.

The Borg-Warner T85 used with it was again a Packard V8-only part. It had a different input shaft than the versions used in the '57-58 Studebaker Golden Hawks with the 289".

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Although he's incorrect on the first part, I'll agree with Riki on the above; the later production of the standard shift bellhousing can most likely be explained by the failure of the Twin-Ultramatic and owners converting to the manual transmission.

BTW - the bellhousing in the photo has been so extensively modified by welding and drilling, it's not a representative of the part. It's certainly not worth $450 IMHO.

jack vines

the one gentlemen is correct up until about 1973 or
around that time, Automotive companies in America
had to stock parts for ten years.
This was changed to 5 years in the early 70's
and the onset of bigger numbers of imports.
This was a great boon to the unions, can you
imagine building, and stocking all those parts,
you can understand why some parts of cars lasted
why longer then they should have, just the cost
of changing over is staggering.
But when Packard went out of business the company
was long obligated. There was no Packard company.
No wonder Henry made the Model T for 19 years...
One thing we as owners of these old cars must remember
is that, they did not build cars for "collectors"
There was no car clubs back then, and of course
when you owned a Packard they did not plan on you doing
your own work, after all Packard was the predominant
luxury Car company.
After Chevron shipping scrapped their US flagged
ships and I was out of a job, I opened a "small"
auto shop and kinda worked only on pre 1940 cars
from Stude's to Packard's and even some later models.
any year Fords, up to 74... and orphan cars.
I've worked on 1912 Studebaker runabout, 28 Packard
25 Flint, 54 Packard, 1919 Cleveland, 36 Pierce Arrow's
(2) etc: I'm out of the business now, I'm not old
just that the recession killed me figured I can live
better not working... hahaha
sorry to bore you with all that.

A few nits to pick -- Packard never went out of business. They simply stopped making cars: Packards and Clippers in Detroit, 1956 and South Bend in 1958, Studebakers in South Bend in late-1963, Canada in 1966. Along the way they bought the Studebaker Corp. in 1954, changing their name to Studebaker-Packard Corp., changing again to Studebaker Corp. in 1962. After 1966, they made money selling items other than cars and trucks.

And, yes, there were many car clubs years ago. The Packard Club started in 1953, the Classic Car Club in 1952, and the AACA way back in 1935.

Isn't the old Studebaker Corp still around in one form or another. After they diversified didn't they have an interest in Madison Square Garden for awhile or maybe under another name still do?