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Leeedy, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the early GM Hydramatics had a Park function, even though a "Park" or "P" position wasn't shown on the quadrant. I quite clearly remember that when you put it in Reverse and turned the engine off (thus no vacuum), they went into a locked Park mode.
Posted on: 2014/5/27 10:15
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Yes, SOME did... others did not. My dad had a Pontiac with automatic... but no PARK setting...only NEUTRAL. Yes there were PARK functions without an actual setting... as for how many users clearly understood this is open to question. Packard was one of the first to take a lead in this area, though not credited as such today. And selector quadrants were not standardized until decades after Packard was long gone. REVERSE on GM and possibly others was wayyyyyy down the path. My 1964 Oldsmobile Starfire had reverse in the opposite position of today.
Posted on: 2014/5/27 10:29
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All in all, the PB system works well and for the time, probably was advanced. I do remember one harrowing PB transmission experience though. It happened on the first Packard I bought back in 74 or so -- a 56 Patrician. The car had been primped up, new paint, rebuilt engine and trans etc. A mechanic friend and I had gone over to another friends house the next town over showing it off and seeing how things operated.
On the way back Dick was driving at highway speed and I was enjoying the scenery. All of a sudden the engine sped up, Dick let out a strong word or two and we started moving down the road. The accelerator had jammed so the pedal was almost to the metal. What to do. Neutral was locked out by the pressure switch so it was not functional and we both knew you couldn't turn the key off to kill the engine without the trans wanting to go into park. He got on the brakes and managed to slow down and I got down and finally managed to wiggle the accelerator away from the floor. Not really sure what exactly happened to mess things up but it was an exhilarating experience -- almost as much fun as when the car vapor locked going up to Yosemite. Narrow twisting roads with steep drop offs and we were rolling backwards without benefit of power brakes or the "self energizing" feature of Bendix brakes.
Posted on: 2014/5/27 11:03
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Most interesting discussion, but I think it would be better served in the V8 section. The advice about setting the parking brake before putting the transmission in Park is one that I do out of habit with my auto trans vehicles (no Ultramatics).
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Posted on: 2014/5/27 11:03
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I think it was the Federal Highway Safety Act, applied to new 1968 cars that mandated a uniform automatic shift pattern (PRND(s)L) along with other safety features like side marker lights. This may have been the death sentence for GM's premium torque converter transmission, but with it their Hydramatics, Powerglides, Dynaflows, etc., were now easy enough to switch drivers with Fords, Chryslers and even Toyotas. By that era, push button Ramblers, Chryslers and certain Packards were things of the past. So was driving an unfamiliar automatic "by the feel of the lever."
Our family had a 1957 Powerglide Chevy and a new 1958 Rambler with push-button Flash-O-Matic (anything but flashy!). The day my father drove it home, my mother asked if the Park slide lever was actually the parking/emergency brake. He didn't know, so he gingerly moved the car and pushed in the Park slide lever. I was with him to hear the transmission protest the abuse. That settled that. Ten years later, father took the lever of a new Buick, dropping it down into what he thought was a familiar place for Reverse and went forward into a garage door. Same father who tried to manually shift, in three on the tree fashion, minus a clutch pedal, the new 57 Chevy soon after buying his first automatic. No real harm done and Park sure didn't feel like second gear. I suppose things like this were commonplace during the Fifties, and learning the Packard way was not all that different. I believe that the February 1955 issue of Popular Science (or Mechanics?) even had several pages devoted to "How to Start" the new 1955s. Not a whole lot of uniformity, and it was tolerated back then.
Posted on: 2014/5/27 11:26
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Yes... agree. Perhaps Owen can get this whole thread bumped over to the V8 section? Or perhaps Big Kev can transition this tread over to the V8 section?
Posted on: 2014/5/27 20:50
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