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Wednesday 23rd May 2012
Not a lot of action at the workshop to start with. While Wayne removed the head studs from Big Reds original block I scraped the silicone gasket material off the sump following it's cycle through the parts washer. Wade has decided to see if the original block is salvageable 'cause it's had a lot of work on it. Besides the sleeves there are hardened valve seats, K-liners in the valve guides and new cam bearings. Next week Wade will be taking a load of Big Red engine parts north so Barry's rebuilder has everything necessary for the work he's going to perform. Also found the bonnet(hood) panel for The Fossil had returned with Steve the panelbeater. But it wasn't ready to go on in fact that's what he was doing, beating the panel. Steve's not happy with it, saying there's a dip in one part, though neither Wade or I can see it, and a very slight kink at one edge, we can see that! Anyway he's going to have another go at the panel tomorrow and when he's happy, Wade'll be happy. And we were honoured today by not one, but two visits from Noel! The first, Noel brought over the pointer for the timing marks on the harmonic balancer, and left with two requests to fulfill. The hardware to be sourced from Lee Bros and a list of the remaining engine parts Wade needs to finish the 356 assembly. Reason being, Wade would be a lot happier to run the finished engine rather then send back what would essentially be a short block assembly. Noel is happy to accommodate this change of plans. And to be able to do that, when the time comes, the rolling chassis will be trailered over and the engine/trans assembly fitted and fired up. Noel's second visit was unexpected, but it's good he did because with most of the parts from the list, it then kept me busy for the remainder of the afternoon cleaning parts in preparation for painting and further engine assembly. EDIT - Quote: JW wrote:Mal, the gasket thickness for the oil pump bottom plate is critical to the pump providing enough pressure...There was a discussion about this some time back... I remember that thread,  for continuing to think of us. An MBM gasket will not be used for such a critical part, instead the correct gasket will be sourced and used.Attach file:  (10.64 KB) (33.82 KB) (20.68 KB) (42.37 KB) (43.31 KB) (17.27 KB) (42.18 KB) (40.23 KB)
Posted on: 2012/5/23 2:26
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/o[]o\ ====  Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this?  Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Mal,
You can make an oil pump cover gasket easy enough. I think the word of caution is not to use thick gasket material. I made one out of printer paper, and the pump is functioning fine. Interesting that you had to use a different clutch release lever to get the new clutch installed when the original one obviously fit before. There is a trick to installing the clutch, and I believe it is described in the service manual. I hope the lighter release lever works on the heavy 11" 356 clutch. Take care, (o[]o)
Posted on: 2012/5/23 17:44
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Thursday 24th May 2012
Not a particularly exciting day. More parts cleaning then painting with POR-15. And a trip over to Lee Bros for another lot of nuts and bolts. And John, Wade will be making an oil pump gasket tomorrow. Apparently the thin gasket usually comes only with the rebuild kit, which isn't required, so MBW will swing into action seeing I can't be there tomorrow. Attach file: (44.84 KB) (48.88 KB) (34.15 KB) (29.24 KB) (35.14 KB)
Posted on: 2012/5/24 1:23
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Mal,
You will most likely need to prime the oil pump before starting the engine. I recommend filling the pump gear chamber with a light grease before installing the MBM gasket and cover. Others here may have other suggestions for assuring that the pump picks up oil and is working before the engine is started. Maybe Wade has already thought about this, bet he has. (o[]o)
Posted on: 2012/5/24 13:48
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JW wrote:Mal, You will most likely need to prime the oil pump before starting the engine. I recommend filling the pump gear chamber with a light grease before installing the MBM gasket and cover...Maybe Wade has already thought about this, bet he has... You win your bet, Wade has already thought of this! But it'll be a MBW gasket and not a MBM. Then, taking a step back in time, yesterday you said this: Quote: ...Interesting that you had to use a different clutch release lever to get the new clutch installed when the original one obviously fit before. There is a trick to installing the clutch, and I believe it is described in the service manual. I hope the lighter release lever works on the heavy 11" 356 clutch... Attach file: (22.24 KB) (29.49 KB)
Posted on: 2012/5/24 14:40
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Do you apply POR with a brush or spray?
Posted on: 2012/5/24 21:04
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Friday 25th May 2012
Didn't expect to get to the workshop today because of donating blood plasma this morning, but the best laid schemes o' mice an' men gang aft agley(see seventh verse!). Was I surprised when I arrived, there were almost enough PACA members for a meeting! Besides Noel, who was delivering another round of parts for the 356, also there were Russ and John, Treasurer and President respectively along with Wade and myself(Secretary)! Wade had disassembled the windchimes and installed some of the parts on the 356. Wade had also fielded a call from Richard, Emily's Dad, and come Monday laden with parts AND tools Emily will be brought back to life. Noel left carrying the 356's carb and rebuild kit and will drop that into Tim at Carburettor Service Co for the professional touch. Quote: Saffron wrote:Do you apply POR with a brush or spray? My answer is, with a brush. Goes on easily and dries to a great finish, dependent of course on preparation and the quality of the surface its being applied to. A word of caution, don't get it on your skin. Gloves and other protective clothing are highly recommended because, once on, it won't come off! Attach file: (32.96 KB) (25.84 KB) (38.42 KB) (31.49 KB) (46.86 KB) (45.34 KB) (42.25 KB) (40.48 KB) (31.63 KB)
Posted on: 2012/5/24 22:56
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Clutch fork #1 with the needle bearing pivot is the right one for all 356 engines. There is a difference in the lever between the prewar conventional body style and the 1942-49 Clipper based body but I believe the difference is in the part of the lever that is outside of the bell housing. The 1946-50 service manual mentions blocking the 3 release levers in the pressure plate with 3/8" nuts to hold the plate in the released position when removing the clutch but says nothing about doing the same when re-installing. It would seem to make sense to do this when putting the clutch assembly back in as well The release lever has to be installed in the bell housing before putting the clutch and pressure plate back in as there is not enough room to get the lever past the pressure plate housing with the clutch in place.
Posted on: 2012/5/25 0:52
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for those insights and references, very much appreciated. The good guys of PackardInfo come through again! Better to get things right now than have a problem down the road.Wade, More work!
Posted on: 2012/5/25 1:00
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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