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Door panels are done, and nearly ready to go on the car. Once the last few bits are figured out then I can mount them. I also need to figure out a vapor barrier to put behind the door panels.

What follows is a lengthy diatribe on how I went about doing the upholstery. It may be of use to someone who is crazy enough to do it themselves. The photos are numbered according to the steps.

1.) I made the replacement panels out of 1/8 hardboard, readily available at Lowe's or Home Depot. It would have been better to use ABS or PVC plastic sheeting, but it's $100 a sheet vs $20 for the hardboard. This car required two 4x8 sheets. I used an old panel as a template, then tried it on the car and made adjustments.

2.) The original panel was heavily faded, warped, and water damaged vinyl. This was the best panel I had out of the four. The stainless pieces will be reused.

3.) To remove the stainless trim, flip the panel over and carefully pry up on the tabs until they are all free. Some of them will be heavily rusted and will break. There isn't much you can do about that.

4.) Once all the trim is removed, straighten all the tabs out, then test fit on the new panel. Adjust holes as necessary.

5.) The stainless trim hides all the junctions between the vinyl panels. It helps tremendously to mark where the stainless covers so that the vinyl and foam can be trimmed to fit within that space. I marked with a pen while the trim was in place. Then remove the trim.

6.) The door panel has two panels that are pleated. I had an upholsterer sew those for me with a professional machine. The uppermost vinyl panel is pleated and will be the first one to mount to the board. To prepare the panel, a band of scrim foam needs to be removed so that it can sit under the stainless trim. Carefully use a razor to trim some off. Do not cut the sewn seams.

7.) Also prep the scrim foam for the other panels. The foam is 1/4" scrim, which has a cloth binding on one side to aid in sewing. It makes it easy to handle for gluing as well.

8.) Next spray contact adhesive on the door panel and on the foam/vinyl panel to be mounted. The best stuff to use is Weldwood's Landau Top and Trim adhesive. I used a cheap Harbor Freight sprayer to spray it. Somewhere between 30-40 PSI is what I used.

9.) Let the glue flash off for a few minutes then put the panel on the board. The adhesive will bond to itself. You can reposition a bit if needed.

10.) Here's the best tip I can offer. This little trick made everything easier. Flip the door panel over, then find a small screwdriver or punch that fits in the holes for the stainless trim. Take a hammer and punch right through the holes. This will leave a small hole/mark on the front of the vinyl.

11.) Here's the mark seen from the front side. This marks the center point of the stainless trim.

12.) Mark a line through all the trim holes. This is the center of the stainless trim. Staples and edges of vinyl need to kept very close to this line so the stainless hides them.


Part 2 up next....

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Posted on: 2023/4/9 14:34
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13.) With the center line marked, place staples on each sewn seam to hold the thread. I used a stapler from Arrow, with T50 1/4" staples. They will poke through the back a bit, but that's not a problem.

14.) Here you can see everything is stapled cleanly.

15.) Trim off the excess foam and vinyl. With the staples holding the threads we don't have to worry about the stiches unwinding.

16.) Now we spray adhesive for the next two panels. Spray on the board as well as the backs of the foam. Let flash then attach. I cut my foam a bit large in all directions in order to allow me room to trim off.

17.) I carefully trimmed some of the foam away to expose the stainless mounting holes. It's okay if the foam is within the marks traced for the stainless trim. The trim will push the foam down some.

18.) I glued the next panel down as normal. The vinyl is cut large in all dimensions, again to give me room to trim.

19.) With the vinyl glued in place, flip the door panel back over to the rear, and punch all the trim mounting holes again. Flip it back to the front side, mark the center line.

20.) Staple in a few spots along the center line and trim the excess vinyl. Note that I did not staple the lower border, since I still have the next panel that needs to go there. I will staple both at once.

21.) With the first two panels in place, stapled, and trimmed, the first piece of stainless can go on. Carefully guide the mounting tabs through the holes you punched. Then push hard with one hand on the stainless from the front, and bend the tabs with the other hand. The tighter you can get the tabs, the better the final look will be.

Part 3 next.....

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Posted on: 2023/4/9 14:45
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22.) The same steps are taken for the next vinyl panel. Glue, mark mounting holes, staple, trim, mount the stainless.

23.) The curved area at the front of the stainless took special attention to make sure the contours of the vinyl matched the stainless. You can see how the stainless tucks in nicely when mounted tightly, giving a pleasing slightly puffed look.

24.) The second pleated panel is next. Again glue the panel as before but stretch the panel end-end in order to make the pleats tight. Mark the mounting holes as before. Staple on each seam right on the stainless center line. Pull tightly on the seams while stapling.

25.) Trim the excess foam and vinyl then install the next trim as before.

26.) Now we do the lower panel. Glue the foam and vinyl as before, mark the holes and draw the centerline. Trim the excess as before.

27.) Mount the lower stainless. The front of the door panel is now completed.

28.) Time for the back of the panel. Flip the panel over and you will see all the excess foam sticking out.

29.) Now trim the excess foam off. On the upper pleated panel the pleats will continue over to the back. Trim the scrim foam as before without touching the stiches. Trim all the other foam to the edge of the hardboard.

30.) With all the foam trimmed off, we are ready to glue the edges. Spray glue on the excess vinyl and the inside 1-1.5" of the hardboard. Let flash then pull hard on the vinyl and wrap it around the edges. Start at the center of the panel and work outward. Do the corners last. My corners are mediocre, but acceptable. I recommend watching YouTube videos of professionals doing it.

31.) Staple the critical areas (corners, stitches, and seams between vinyl layers. Then trim the excess vinyl with a razor blade to make everything even.

32.) The panel is now done (besides marking and mounting the lock trim). Side by side vs the old panel the difference is easy to see. The new panel looks much nicer. The pleats on the new one mirror the original nicely and the colors are good. The new panel is thicker due to the foam, but still looks right.

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jpg  32 - excess vinyl trimmed on the rear of the panel, staples placed in critical areas.jpg (153.20 KB)
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jpg  33 - Completed, comparison to the old faded panel.jpg (124.11 KB)
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Posted on: 2023/4/9 15:02
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They look fantastic!

Posted on: 2023/4/9 15:56
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1954 Packard Clipper Deluxe Touring Sedan -> Registry | Project Blog

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Yes indeed, they look great!

Posted on: 2023/4/9 20:48
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Thanks guys! It's been fun so far.

Test mounted the last two door panels today and everything lines up great. I checked the springs and I think the small spring goes to the window regulator and the larger one goes to the door handle.

I test fit the regulator handle and the door handle with a retaining pin. The door handle for sure will not need a spring to give it tension. It was very difficult to get a pin in there. The regulator handle will need a spring. I'll go ahead and get the springs for all of them and then see if I need them all.

Lastly I picked up some frames and printed off some of my favorite Packard pictures to mount on my wall. I've got a few more to add, but currently there are a few of my favorite shots of the Panama, and one picture of my dad and grandfather in front of my dad's '38.

-Kevin

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Posted on: 2023/4/10 22:56
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The springs should all be the same, or at least they are on my 1956 and on all my earlier cars.

Posted on: 2023/4/11 1:38
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I'm not familiar with these springs as I don't see them on either of my 55's.

Posted on: 2023/4/11 4:05
'55 400. Needs aesthetic parts put back on, and electrical system sorted.
'55 Clipper Deluxe. Engine is stuck-ish.
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You might be right, I was possibly thinking of my 1954 which I am also working on.

Posted on: 2023/4/11 18:00
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So it's a 1954 and earlier thing? I'll probably just get a few of the normal size and call it good.

-Kevin

Posted on: 2023/4/11 18:25
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