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...In browsing the article on the Russian Government (and alleged Stalin) 37 Twelve it was interesting to read that the rear door window glasses weighed about 100 lbs each and were raised and lowered with a hydraulic jack within the door. I vaguely remember a similar arrangement in the armoured ZIS', Gusha could confirm... Dave (O_D), I gladly confirm that the Soviets used bottle jacks for all four doors and I always thought it would have been a stopgap measure, 'cause it "looks Russian" - or probably better, it's just what I'd expect of them. Simple, unsophisticated, anything but beautiful and almost indestructible. Just goes to show you never know. Attach file: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Posted on: 2013/6/18 18:49
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The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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That bottle jack arrangment would be a real asset in the 41-42 180's.
Packard and Dietrich supposedly didn't get along all too well. Dietrich was rather extroverted and a fun loving party animal. He did a fantastic job modernizing the Packard line for the 6th series. However, in the background was a much quieter talent named Werner Gubritz who took the Dietrich forms and carried them right into 1942. Dietrich had real problems at Chrysler too. He was somebody easily made into a corporate target. Which just goes to show that corporate bullies are in fact cowards whose staying power is manifest in running talent out of town on a rail to the detriment of the stockholders.
Posted on: 2013/6/18 21:51
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... At least the windshield wasn't bullet proof, but unfortunately anybody willing to take advantage of the fact ... Let the facts speak for themselves. Attach file: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Posted on: 2013/6/19 4:34
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The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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We found a solution to the 180 hydraulic problems by using 6-volt electric motors from a mid-'50s Lincoln. The huge giveaway that anything is different is that they actually work (yes, I know the hydraulics will work, too, but only if you use them frequently. If the car sits for lengths of time, the hydraulics will fail.)
Posted on: 2013/6/19 8:10
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Dear West:
I did one years ago using Chrysler 6 volt electrics. The owner bought two parts cars: One for the motors and a Packard parts car for the regulators. They worked pretty darn good - especially the fronts which bolted right onto the Packard regulator. But those Chryslers are pretty hard to find. Once I was looking at a barn load of Packard parts somebody bought. There were a set of 52 DeSoto doors among everything. He said: "I don't know why he has these. I should throw them out." I said: "Don't you dare. That's the 6 volt electric window system that fits the Packard 180."
Posted on: 2013/6/19 8:26
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Boy, we've really drifted off topic here. Be that as it may, as noted before I know of two owners who have converted their 41/42 hydraulic windows to 12-volt electric by using motors/regulators from (I believe) Jeep Cherokees, powered by a small hidden 12-volt motorcycle battery. It's a free-standing system independent of the rest of the car's electrics and they say the battery only requires charging once or twice a year so any complicated dual-voltage charging system is not required.
Posted on: 2013/6/19 8:44
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Sorry 'bout that, Chief.
In regards to the speedster story: I was quite a bit disappointed. Nothing new added; basically material reprinted from other sources.
Posted on: 2013/6/19 10:34
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I'm slipping! Forgot the '29-'30 Stutz M Weymann Monte Carlo sport sedan contemporary with the Jordan Z. Steve
Posted on: 2013/6/25 19:10
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Those bullet proof windshield pictures are on a ZIS.
The 37 Stalin Packard has a stock windshield. The speedster story has one item worth noting - the 745 Boattail Speedster that was in Pennsylvania. People didn't believe that such a car existed, but if Hugo Pfau drew a sketch for his files it must be a very impressive car. It has been in storage for decades.
Posted on: 2013/6/25 21:36
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