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Find of the decade? D'Oh!
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So I am checking out the Packards in the local salvage yard & I see a '56 Hudson 4dr. I look inside and there is the clutch peddle and a little plastic nob that says "overdrive"
Oh, this could be good! But the hood is stuck.

I check back in the office & the old timer says "that car has the big v-8 in it. The whole stick change over? I'd need about $300 for that."

Well I'm about to have one of those medical deals that could last more than 4 hours...

The guys pull the car back to the shop & piles some tires under it and that oil pan didn't quite look like a Packard. Only one exhaust pipe too..

Seems it had the Hudson flat head 6 in 'er with a T-96

Well, I guess that motor is worth while to the Hudson folk & it's priced right.

For a Minute, the day was looking pretty good!

Posted on: 2013/10/2 20:09
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Does it have "Twin H-Power" script on the trunk? Might have the 308 cid big 6 with 2 carbs. That and the OD trans is worth good money to the Hudson folks.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 11:59
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Finding a 1956 Hudson with the Packard V8 is a rare find as AMC introduced their own V8 very early in the model run. I wonder if the 55 and 56 Hudsons with the 308 6-cylinder still used the "wet clutch" from 54 and prior? Anyone know? Anyone who raced a 6-cylinder Hudson quickly abandoned the standard shift and wet clutch for the Hydramatic, the wet clutch was great for drivers who weren't very adept and clutching and shifting as it sure had plenty of slip.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 12:55
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Re: Find of the decade? D'Oh!
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Owen_Dyneto wrote:
Finding a 1956 Hudson with the Packard V8 is a rare find as AMC introduced their own V8 very early in the model run. I wonder if the 55 and 56 Hudsons with the 308 6-cylinder still used the "wet clutch" from 54 and prior? Anyone know? Anyone who raced a 6-cylinder Hudson quickly abandoned the standard shift and wet clutch for the Hydramatic, the wet clutch was great for drivers who weren't very adept and clutching and shifting as it sure had plenty of slip.


Good point, might have been a few "leftover" Packard V8's in the early 1956 models but I've never seen one.

Re the wet clutch on the 6's, it is easily converted to a conventional dry clutch. I had a 1949 Super Six that was converted....no more hassles finding Hudsonite Clutch Fluid.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 13:17
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I have had three '56 Hudsons with the Packard V8 in them....all with Ultramatic. I believe that a standard transmission could be special ordered for Packard supplied V8 Hudsons.... but have never seen one so far in any of the AMC's with the Packard V8. The 55/56 AMC Hudson Service Manual does show a standard transmission, but it is the AMC/Nash transmission, either with or without overdrive...as ordered from the factory. I don't believe any 55 or 56 Hudsons were made coupling the Hudson wet clutch transmission to the Packard V8. I currently own a '56 Nash Ambassador with the Packard V8 and the block stamping lists it as a 352ci, which is correct for '56 V8 Nashs supplied with the Packard V8. It has the aluminum cased Ultramatic, which again is correct for '56 models.... I also own a completely original '55 Patrician....and it is amazing how many actual differences there were between the Packard installed V8 and the V8 supplied to AMC..... Also: Nash and Hudson used a torque tube instead of an open driveshaft...and there are very unique differences in the Ultramatic shift qualities because of that....

Posted on: 2013/10/3 15:23
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Wonder if the driver profile was much different between Nash or Hudson people and Packard buyers as far as how they drove their cars. Curious if those vehicles had the issues with the 55 TUltras as Packards did. I believe the Nash/Hudson might have been lighter cars but would that have made much difference.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 15:40
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.and it is amazing how many actual differences there were between the Packard installed V8 and the V8 supplied to AMC.....


Just curious...what engine numbers are stamped on the block next to the oil filler tube on the Hash/Packard V8's? I have a 1955 Packard 320 long block that was originally used in a marine conversion and the stamped number is "SP 087", and it has the AMC style oil pump.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 15:56
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The Packard 352ci engine that is in my '56 Ambassador does have a number stamped in the usual oil filler location similar to the Packard built cars. The number on my engine is "P27774"....but unlike Packard, this number does not correspond in anyway to the actual serial number on the data plate for my '56 Nash. I also have a spare Packard engine removed from a Nash parts car....the number stamped on the back of the block shows its a 352ci....the number near the oil filler is: "P23734".....

Posted on: 2013/10/3 17:31
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The Packard 352ci engine that is in my '56 Ambassador does have a number stamped in the usual oil filler location similar to the Packard built cars. The number on my engine is "P27774"....but unlike Packard, this number does not correspond in anyway to the actual serial number on the data plate for my '56 Nash. I also have a spare Packard engine removed from a Nash parts car....the number stamped on the back of the block shows its a 352ci....the number near the oil filler is: "P23734".....


Thanks for the info. I've yet to figure out where the "SP 087" comes from or if the company doing the conversion bought the engines direct from Studebaker-Packard. Maybe that is the "SP" in the serial number?

Posted on: 2013/10/3 18:22
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I'm willing to wager that junkyard guy had all sorts of inquiries about whether that car was a Packard V-8. So he locked the hood closed and started saying it was a V-8.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 18:25
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