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Not quite head on, but would this help?
Posted on: 2015/9/27 11:39
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A few pic from Gettysburg in the hall note our Randy in the back ground. The last picture was at the Motel at night
Posted on: 2015/9/27 18:59
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As a last resort, you can find the issue of The Packard Cormorant with the Request on eBay. Likewise for the Collectible Automobile. But the magazine aside from TPC with the most stuff from those days with the car was first being restored was "Car Classics" magazine. Again, locatable the same way. RE: duplicating the Request... Any serious duplication would be quite intricate and costly. Just the grille alone consisted of a lot of very complicated rippled and bent strips of heavy metal. Then there is the massive casting of the hood... and then you're still left with the issue of the huge, heavy dual front bumpers and then after you've cast them, there is the plating.
Posted on: 2015/9/28 1:14
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? Actually my friend Larry Dopps was out of Washington state. And Larry was one of three partners who originally restored the exterior of the car. The Request was found in Oregon. ? The Request was not "sold of of Packard in 1957"... it was simply taken home in 1956 by someone who was-shall we say-a senior person at Packard. This person's wife actually drove the Request on the streets on numerous occasions. I can tell you it was driven on the streets in Florida and in Chicago-among other places until it was wrecked and changed hands more than once.
Posted on: 2015/9/28 1:23
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There are a lot of folks making guesses about the Request, but you cannot look at the car today and see how it looked when new. Or guess how it was done. ? RE: the "update" of Request... The so-called "update" of Request did not include the present interior at all. In fact, the second interior included was a 1956 Four Hundred fabric interior. This interior has apparently been recently removed. ? The original interior was basically a 1955 Caribbean pleated genuine leather interior-which is also no longer in the car-with leather supplied by Lackawanna Leather Company. Ask me how I know.
Posted on: 2015/9/28 1:31
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RE: the "plastic crest cast into the fiberglass hood"... Not sure whether I got the notion that the crest was plastic from an old magazine article or that I (mistakenly) assumed that the builder had borrowed a piece from the '54 Seniors. Perhaps I misinterpreted the use of the term 'cast' in that context. Regardless, here's a nice view of that detail on the car from another site: http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/1187884,23811/1955-Packard-Request-Concept_photo.aspx ...which appears to show a polished/plated and colored metal part. Sure looks a lot like the same pattern as used for the plastic crest (to me). Quote: RE: "stock 1955-400" ... I understand the purpose of pilot production vehicles. However, the 'hand-constructed' parts that you (Leeedy) cited are only trim pieces, and we have seen several examples of changes in trim from pre-production (as shown in the early 55th Series brochures) and even running changes during the production year (such as the 55th Series Clipper side trim). I even had a couple of original Patrician rear door (spear) moldings that were cast in bronze. However, it's not like the Request was some hastily cobbled-up mule. I doubt that the regular production body shell would have changed so much from the pilot run that the Request front clip could not have bolted right up to ANY 55th Series Four Hundred. Heck, we've seen '55 front fenders installed on '56 models and vice versa, and I'm sure you know the subtle difference betwewen the two. Anyway, thanks for providing further details.
Posted on: 2015/9/29 11:24
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Hi
Here's the front of the Request-style 400 hardtop custom in the Kanter's collection. Although the upper section is definitely late '30 Packard, the lower half strikes me to be a late-'40's-early '50's large truck upper radiator shell, though can't put my finger on make. With careful selection of '50's bumper sections, 'dagmars', pans, and grille material from a variety of makes, plus hand-formed sheet metal, one could come up with a pleasing custom version of the Request styling. Not authentic, of course, but done simply to satisfy personal taste and the desire to have 'something different'. If its done with prior design work and reasonable taste to avoid the sourced parts from being obvious as to their source and fine workmanship, I would enjoy seeing a '55 Patrician or 400 appear with such custom work. Can't be a total purist all the time! Steve
Posted on: 2015/9/29 17:01
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.....epigram time.....
Proud 1953 Clipper Deluxe owner. Thinking about my next Packard, want a Clipper Deluxe Eight, manual shift with overdrive. |
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I hate to say it, but that Request front treatment kind of reminds me of an Edsel.
Posted on: 2015/9/29 17:35
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Yeah. You have to get the proportions right. How about this one? The horizontal elements keep one thinking of a wider front end while the vertical part still has a "Packard" feel to it.
Posted on: 2015/9/30 11:46
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