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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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A couple of issues I had when starting a long sitting engine was with a lot of cranking with no start the plugs fouled and were moist so were grounding the spark. Also, make sure the points have not oxidized from just sitting. Only takes a few seconds to use a point file or run some coarse paper like from a heavy paper sack thru them to clean off any oily deposits.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 15:14
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Howard is right, check the points. Likely oxidized or not adjusted correctly. Ross has a great video that explains how to adjust the distributor correctly including the points.

Double check the simple things. Like correct wires going to the plugs in the correct order. Check the cap and rotor for burning or corrosion. Make sure the cool is getting voltage, etc. Initial timing also.

You'll get it, just need to figure out where the problem lies.

Kevin

Posted on: 2023/11/4 16:11
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Cleaned the points…used 600 sandpaper per Ross’ suggestion. Got spark….and she started right up.

She starts very easy now and seems to run quite smooth.

But….there’s always a but.

The I’m not seeing the oil pressure pick up on the gauge. Tried a couple of things after talking to Ross…I really owe him dinner or something after today.

Bought an oil pressure gauge at the auto parts and hooked it up. Same thing.

So, Ross thinks it’s likely that either they oil pump needs primed or the pickup in the pan is plugged.

So, more work to do, but today was still a very good day. Just know it runs well is awesome..

On the down side, the new fuel sending unit I put in is not working. I had tested it with the fuel gauge before installing and it was working. Then installed it, re-installed the tank, added gas….and nothing.

I’ll lower the tank (not remove) it and see if I can get to it to check the connections at the tank.

In the meantime, I’ll also tackle replacing the seal in the steering box.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 19:08
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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What is this? I noticed it while under the car today working on other things.

If is near the brake line on the front passenger side.

Can’t see that it goes anywhere, but the hole is threaded.

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Posted on: 2023/11/4 19:25
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Fuel line connection for hardline … other side is for flex house going to fuel pump

Posted on: 2023/11/4 22:12
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
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[url=https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Have had this happen…. Probably the ground wire or the grounding through tank is not good.


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Don B wrote:
Cleaned the points…used 600 sandpaper per Ross’ suggestion. Got spark….and she started right up.

She starts very easy now and seems to run quite smooth.

But….there’s always a but.

The I’m not seeing the oil pressure pick up on the gauge. Tried a couple of things after talking to Ross…I really owe him dinner or something after today.

Bought an oil pressure gauge at the auto parts and hooked it up. Same thing.

So, Ross thinks it’s likely that either they oil pump needs primed or the pickup in the pan is plugged.

So, more work to do, but today was still a very good day. Just know it runs well is awesome..

On the down side, the new fuel sending unit I put in is not working. I had tested it with the fuel gauge before installing and it was working. Then installed it, re-installed the tank, added gas….and nothing.

I’ll lower the tank (not remove) it and see if I can get to it to check the connections at the tank.

In the meantime, I’ll also tackle replacing the seal in the steering box.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 22:16
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
Maroon/Black 1090-1021
[url=https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Well now, that’s interesting. Clearly, my fuel line is not original. Currently, my fuel line goes across to the drivers side and then back to the rear.

Based on this, the hard-line must have gone to the rear on the passenger side.

What I have works, so I’m going to leave that alone for now. Just one more thing to add to the list of corrections to be made.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 22:18
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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New gauge a mechanical oil gauge? If so… should come with the white plastic line…. You’ll be able to see if oil is even coming up to the gauge that way. If not…. Could be a clogged port hole filled with thick crusty oil…. Or as Ross says…

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Don B wrote:
Cleaned the points…used 600 sandpaper per Ross’ suggestion. Got spark….and she started right up.

She starts very easy now and seems to run quite smooth.

But….there’s always a but.

The I’m not seeing the oil pressure pick up on the gauge. Tried a couple of things after talking to Ross…I really owe him dinner or something after today.

Bought an oil pressure gauge at the auto parts and hooked it up. Same thing.

So, Ross thinks it’s likely that either they oil pump needs primed or the pickup in the pan is plugged.

So, more work to do, but today was still a very good day. Just know it runs well is awesome..

On the down side, the new fuel sending unit I put in is not working. I had tested it with the fuel gauge before installing and it was working. Then installed it, re-installed the tank, added gas….and nothing.

I’ll lower the tank (not remove) it and see if I can get to it to check the connections at the tank.

In the meantime, I’ll also tackle replacing the seal in the steering box.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 22:22
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
Maroon/Black 1090-1021
[url=https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Yes original would have been down passenger’s frame rail… to that connection that goes through the frame…. Then the flex hose goes from that to the fuel pump.

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Well now, that’s interesting. Clearly, my fuel line is not original. Currently, my fuel line goes across to the drivers side and then back to the rear.

Based on this, the hard-line must have gone to the rear on the passenger side.

What I have works, so I’m going to leave that alone for now. Just one more thing to add to the list of corrections to be made.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 22:24
1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
Maroon/Black 1090-1021
[url=https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/View.php?ID=232]1955 Packard
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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New gauge a mechanical oil gauge? If so… should come with the white plastic line…. You’ll be able to see if oil is even coming up to the gauge that way. If not…. Could be a clogged port hole filled with thick crusty oil…. Or as Ross says…

Quote:

Don B wrote:
Cleaned the points…used 600 sandpaper per Ross’ suggestion. Got spark….and she started right up.

She starts very easy now and seems to run quite smooth.

But….there’s always a but.

The I’m not seeing the oil pressure pick up on the gauge. Tried a couple of things after talking to Ross…I really owe him dinner or something after today.

Bought an oil pressure gauge at the auto parts and hooked it up. Same thing.

So, Ross thinks it’s likely that either they oil pump needs primed or the pickup in the pan is plugged.

So, more work to do, but today was still a very good day. Just know it runs well is awesome..

On the down side, the new fuel sending unit I put in is not working. I had tested it with the fuel gauge before installing and it was working. Then installed it, re-installed the tank, added gas….and nothing.

I’ll lower the tank (not remove) it and see if I can get to it to check the connections at the tank.

In the meantime, I’ll also tackle replacing the seal in the steering box.



The new gauge is mechanical. You are correct, it came with a nylon translucent tube. I can see some oil coming part way up the tube, but not far. It sounds like it should be pushing the oil to the gauge pretty quickly. I want to be careful and not cause bigger problems.

Posted on: 2023/11/4 23:00
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