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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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I could not find anything in the parts x-ref, but does somebody know a standard part number for the front wheel bearing inner seals? I should be able to pick those up locally here in queens this week. Either a napa or a Chicago Rawhide number or something like that. Thanks!

Posted on: 6/9 22:04
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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I'm showing several "Front Wheel Seals" listed in the X-Ref that show 51-56.

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Posted on: 6/9 22:23
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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You're right Kev, there were multiple numbers so it is a little confusing. My local "old school" parts guy couldn't find anything with the national 5759 nkmber, but the napa 17145 he was able to find. I have 2 of those on the way. Suitcase filling up with small parts.

Posted on: 6/10 8:56
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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If buying new Napa cylinders rather than just the kits, note that some might have metric bleed valves as I found when I bought some for my Patrician. One was metric and the other wasn't.

When I went through and better organized the brake parts cross reference section a while back, I tried to remove some duplicates but without actually having a part in-hand it was a bit tricky to do that!

Also, some entries indicate that an adapter of some sort is required including on the part numbers that I had used myself but none were needed on my car so maybe it was referencing the brass piece that the car came with which adapts the steel flare to the pipe threads in the cylinder. To me, that's part of the car rather than an adapter as the latter indicates (to me) that the cylinder thread is wrong and must be converted using an adapter so it's really not clear to me what that references.

Posted on: 6/10 12:29
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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I picked up two Timken 5836 seals. They look correct, but I will know for sure when I install them. If they fit, we can add it to the parts xref.

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Posted on: 6/10 20:44
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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Lots of other things (Life I guess) keeping me from too much packard time for me, but some things I can delegate that get done. I had the new rear wheel bearings pressed onto the axles and can start assembling that back together someday. I also had the drum backing plates powdercoated in a nice black semi-gloss. They look lovely, and I will be happy installing them. One little detail that delighted me was that you can see a stamp from the company Bendix that made the brakes. Is that a "4" on the emblem that means something? four wheel brakes?
Anyway, thought I would post a picture of that for your viewing pleasure

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Posted on: 6/21 14:57
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Pretty sure it a reference to the Bendix drum brake type. In the.prewar years there references to Type 2 and Type 3 style Bendix brakes. It's the change in technology I think. 3 shoe vs 2 shoe, self-actuating vs non, etc.

Posted on: 6/21 15:32
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From a Motors Repair Manual (Types 2, 3 and 4):


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Posted on: 6/21 16:08
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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I could use some advice here. One seal I was able to drive in quite well and I am certain that is far enough. The other (passenger) side does not want to go any farther, and I dont want to kill this seal. Is this seal in far enough, or should I really hammer it home?
Thanks fellas!

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Posted on: 7/1 15:17
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As I recall, the backing plate and any needed shims for adjusting end play retains the bearing race. If race will be able to fit without keeping the backing plate from fully seating or affecting the end play adjustment then it should be in far enough. If not then you would need to correct something. You might be able to measure both the race and space with a micrometer to see what kind of clearance you will have. If the space is there and the seal will still be riding on a machined area of the axle shaft then it should be OK.

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