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Hi all,
I recently purchased a 1949 23rd series eight club sedan (2 door). I have the sun visor hardware only. Can anyone please post the dimensions of the complete sun visor and perhaps some photos of the original ones so I can attempt to replicate them?

Also missing are the steel strips that run between the door sill moulding and the carpet. I'd like to have some fabricated and am wondering if they are an L shaped setup, with about an inch of flat steel that screws to the floor before turning into a U bend and meeting with the carpet. Again, any photos or insight into this would be much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Leigh

Good Morning...If you look in the left hand column, and click on the DIRECTORY...there is quite a list of Packard Suppliers who may/will have what you need. Start with Max Merritt and Packards Southwest...Ernie in Arizona

Good Morning...If you look in the left hand column, and click on the DIRECTORY...there is quite a list of Packard Suppliers who may/will have what you need. Start with Max Merritt and Packards Southwest...Ernie in Arizona

Finding some as Ernie suggests may be easier than trying to make new visors but your being in Australia probably makes the freight charge getting them there from the US substantial -- and they would probably need to be redone anyway. No idea what other cars you might have to pick from in at a local scrapyard but suspect the construction of some might allow a substitution and all you would need to do is reupholster in the Packard fashion. Of course upholstery patterns and finish varied by car model but if someone could take photos and measure their 23rd series visor it would be a start.

I cannot provide exact dimensions for the 22-23 series visor but I can for a 21st series 47 Clipper. Maybe someone else could measure their 22-23 car's visor to confirm those overall dimensions. Since your car was a facelift of the Clipper body and style and share some inner body parts and dimensions I would wager they are very close in size and would also bet the overall construction of the visor (allowing for any size difference) will be identical on yours.

The visor has an inner piece of 1/8 thick hardboard with a sheetmetal piece formed on one edge to wrap snugly around the rod and stapled to the hardboard on the other. That circle needs to be snug as friction to the rod is the only thing that keeps the visor from flopping down when parked against the headliner. It is a full circle but is open on one edge so it may be formed to be a tiny bit smaller than the rod diameter in order for the open side to form a spring effect to increase the friction. That inner hardboard piece is covered by a folded over piece of cardboard which has an outer finish of upholstery or vinyl depending on the trim for the particular model of car. An edge binding over the cardboard edges and sewn thru the folded cardboard on 3 sides keeps it fastened to the inner support.


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On the carpet trim piece, even though the rubber sill plates have different tread designs between the 3 series they are interchangeable but I am not as sure if there is any differences in shape between the 21st and the 22-23 series metal piece. Don't know for sure what the material is either but suspect it may be some type of fairly low quality stainless steel. Because of the finish look, I think stainless but low quality because of the fact that it has no trouble rusting. On the 21st 47 It is a single piece running the length of the door opening minus maybe 1/2-3/4 clearance to body at each end where the windlace curves into and terminates under the open ends of the piece. It has a curved top and is bent to form a single mounting point leg which is screwed to body under the rubber sill mat. For whatever reason I could get a decent end shot of the piece so tried to provide a drawing to give the general idea. The slight 1/8 offset on the leg side lets the rubber sill piece go under but the edge to the inside of car does not touch the floor. As I mentioned rust is an issue and the mounting portion of this piece was totally gone. I taped a sliver of scrap metal to the leg side so you could get an idea of how the mounting portion of that leg looks. In the actual factory piece the mounting portion runs full length as you can see in the as mounted photo. In that photo you can barely distinguish the leg and mounting screws because I used POR 15 over the sill area but the screws are almost directly over the round holes for the sill plate clips.