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Hi all,
I recently purchased a 1949 23rd series eight club sedan (2 door). I have the sun visor hardware only. Can anyone please post the dimensions of the complete sun visor and perhaps some photos of the original ones so I can attempt to replicate them?

Also missing are the steel strips that run between the door sill moulding and the carpet. I'd like to have some fabricated and am wondering if they are an L shaped setup, with about an inch of flat steel that screws to the floor before turning into a U bend and meeting with the carpet. Again, any photos or insight into this would be much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Leigh

Good Morning...If you look in the left hand column, and click on the DIRECTORY...there is quite a list of Packard Suppliers who may/will have what you need. Start with Max Merritt and Packards Southwest...Ernie in Arizona

Good Morning...If you look in the left hand column, and click on the DIRECTORY...there is quite a list of Packard Suppliers who may/will have what you need. Start with Max Merritt and Packards Southwest...Ernie in Arizona

Finding some as Ernie suggests may be easier than trying to make new visors but your being in Australia probably makes the freight charge getting them there from the US substantial -- and they would probably need to be redone anyway. No idea what other cars you might have to pick from in at a local scrapyard but suspect the construction of some might allow a substitution and all you would need to do is reupholster in the Packard fashion. Of course upholstery patterns and finish varied by car model but if someone could take photos and measure their 23rd series visor it would be a start.

I cannot provide exact dimensions for the 22-23 series visor but I can for a 21st series 47 Clipper. Maybe someone else could measure their 22-23 car's visor to confirm those overall dimensions. Since your car was a facelift of the Clipper body and style and share some inner body parts and dimensions I would wager they are very close in size and would also bet the overall construction of the visor (allowing for any size difference) will be identical on yours.

The visor has an inner piece of 1/8 thick hardboard with a sheetmetal piece formed on one edge to wrap snugly around the rod and stapled to the hardboard on the other. That circle needs to be snug as friction to the rod is the only thing that keeps the visor from flopping down when parked against the headliner. It is a full circle but is open on one edge so it may be formed to be a tiny bit smaller than the rod diameter in order for the open side to form a spring effect to increase the friction. That inner hardboard piece is covered by a folded over piece of cardboard which has an outer finish of upholstery or vinyl depending on the trim for the particular model of car. An edge binding over the cardboard edges and sewn thru the folded cardboard on 3 sides keeps it fastened to the inner support.


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On the carpet trim piece, even though the rubber sill plates have different tread designs between the 3 series they are interchangeable but I am not as sure if there is any differences in shape between the 21st and the 22-23 series metal piece. Don't know for sure what the material is either but suspect it may be some type of fairly low quality stainless steel. Because of the finish look, I think stainless but low quality because of the fact that it has no trouble rusting. On the 21st 47 It is a single piece running the length of the door opening minus maybe 1/2-3/4 clearance to body at each end where the windlace curves into and terminates under the open ends of the piece. It has a curved top and is bent to form a single mounting point leg which is screwed to body under the rubber sill mat. For whatever reason I could get a decent end shot of the piece so tried to provide a drawing to give the general idea. The slight 1/8 offset on the leg side lets the rubber sill piece go under but the edge to the inside of car does not touch the floor. As I mentioned rust is an issue and the mounting portion of this piece was totally gone. I taped a sliver of scrap metal to the leg side so you could get an idea of how the mounting portion of that leg looks. In the actual factory piece the mounting portion runs full length as you can see in the as mounted photo. In that photo you can barely distinguish the leg and mounting screws because I used POR 15 over the sill area but the screws are almost directly over the round holes for the sill plate clips.

Leigh,
Sorry I missed you when you added your '49 Eight Club Sedan to the Registry, for that, and to PackardInfo. Good to see another Aussie on board.

Have you considered joining PACA (Packard Automobile Club of Australia) to make contact with other 22nd/23rd Series owners? PACA has a good presence in South Australia.

Hello Gentlemen,

Thank you so much for your responses, very much appreciated. Howard - I couldn't have wished for a more detailed or timely response, fantastic!

Would it be pushing the friendship to ask if you can shed some light on the dimensions of the B pillar trim pieces? They are also completely missing on my car. I thought I'd be able to draw up a template for them without too much trouble, but I'd like to keep as true to the original dimensions as possible.

Ozstatman - yes, I am interested in PACA. I see they have their annual rally coming to South Australia in a few months. I've got the Packard booked in for a full State Government vehicle inspection next week. If I can get it Registered and the interior in a fit condition by the end of March it'd be great to head along.

Thanks again everyone.

Leigh

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The sill trim has an outer stainless steel piece that is crimped over a steel liner as shown in Howard's post.
The stainless piece is 44-7/16" long and the horizontal leg of the liner stops 3/4" before the end of the stainless on either end with 9 sheet metal screws holding it to the body sill.
Part numbers from the 1948-54 parts list are 396540 Right and 396541 Left for all 1948-50 two door models.
For some reason, the part numbers for 1941-47 Clipper 2 door models are different but the body shells are pretty much identical.

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Leigh,

Good luck with the inspection and getting on the road with your Packard. Pity I can't give you a link to the PACA Website, but I have a problem in that I'm blocked from it. I have fond memories of a couple of SA National Packard Rallies to Victor Harbor and Kangaroo Island, these coincided with that years Bay to Birdwood which was also enjoyable and memorable.