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According to this source the below shown car is a 1941 Clipper. I don't know what that Packard brought to Bulgaria but to find back home the odds are long.
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If only that old Packard could talk. Maybe a war relic?
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Well, in the whirlpool of war events almost everything was possible. But let's not forget that Bulgaria had an official Packard importer.
Quote: ...Their dealership network overseas as of 1938 was very extensive and included Albania, Arabia, Argentia, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Boliva, Brazil, British East Africa, British Honduras, British West Indies, Bulgaria, Burma, Ceylon, Chile, China, Columbia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslavia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, England, Estonia, Finland, France, French Indo-China, French West Indies, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Hawaii, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Mexico, Morocco, the Netherlands, Netherlands East Indies, Netherlands West Indies, Newfoundland, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Palestine, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippine Islands, Portugal, Portugese East Africa, Puerto Rico, Rhodesia - Northern and Southern, Roumania, Salvador, South-west Africa, Straights Settlement, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Tunisia, Turkey, Union of South Africa, Uruguay, Venezuela, & Yugoslavia... This link leads to a current Packard offer in Bulgaria. [picture source:virtualparking.net/vehicle-295-1938_packard_sedan.htm] Attach file:  (30.32 KB) (20.95 KB) (30.41 KB)
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Just prior to WW II, Packard's dealer in Bulgaria was:
Lazare Gberon 6, Boulevard Zar Osvoboditel Sofia
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Dave, thanks. Today we'll visit a Packard in a museum located in Moscow. Not the smallest one. To visit the museum in its entirety would take up a lot of time. Let's say, just hypothetically, that we would confine ourself to visit only one of its various departments, as for instance the war department. But even this restriction wouldn't really help, it can't be done in a day. To conceive an idea of its vast extent imagine that its collection of tanks alone consists of almost 100 vehicles (even 170 acc. to other sources) - and it doesn't claim to be specialized in tanks. The talk is of the property rooms of Mosfilm, a film studio which is known for its epic movies.
<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/quHnKgfwoB0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Attach file: (56.80 KB)
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Gusha, not to digress to far, but have you ever visited the Deutsche Museum (of science and industry) in Munich? I found it every bit as wonderful as our own Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. Dave, I visited it many times when I lived in Munich in 1995. Indeed it is a world-class museum, on a par with one anywhere. A "don't miss" if you are in Germany.
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"The Deutsches Museum (German Museum) in Munich, Germany, is the world's largest museum of technology and science,[1] with approximately 1.5 million visitors per year and about 28,000 exhibited objects from 50 fields of science and technology..." [wikipedia]
 M?nchen, Bavaria, German Museum of Masterpieces of Science and Technology Dave, Craig, thanks for mentioning that museum. It would be definitely wrong to say that I know it. I've read that it stores more than 10,000,000 exhibits in its several basement storage rooms and restoration departments on various locations. Once I visited the museum to view its enginehouse but landed up in its musical instruments collection. Thereafter I've bought a commutation ticket. It is a giant in both quantity and quality. Unfortunately it is too far away from home to go by car or train, one and a half flight hour lying in between. BTW Just a day before yesterday I told Jim (39super8) in the chat that we'll travel to Berlin this week to visit the German Historical Museum. I enjoy museums, fairs and exhibitions to the fullest and would love to visit the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago.  Berlin, German Historical Museum
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Guscha, I don't think it is a 1941 (19th Series) Clipper. If I am not mistaken the 1941 Clippers only came in one body style, a junior level 8-cylinder 4-door sedan to supplement the One Twenties. The Clipper pictured looks to be a long wheel base 7-passenger model. This and the short horizontal grille bars makes me think it is a senior (160 or 180) 1942 model. So, the question is: when did it come to Bulgaria? Must have arrived after the war. Maybe its earlier life was as an embassy car? (o{I}o)
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John, with view at the below shown photograph which can be found in the model info I think the short horizontal grille bars are correct for a 1941 Clipper.
 As for the LWB I trust your eyes more than mine, knowing that you own a Clipper.  The web contains some few information about Bulgarian Packards and contrary to Russia even a couple of postwar cars. [picture source: www.classiccars.zonebg.com] Attach file: (56.59 KB)
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