Re: Ultramatic leaking from the manual valve seal.
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Sounds like you've got the incorrectly sized seal. Some folks might use gasket shellac on the seal exterior rim but even without that it should be a press-fit and not leak.
Other possibility is the shaft itself is damaged or not concentric with the seal bore.
Posted on: 2011/8/29 15:10
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Mine leaks too. But i havn't tried yet to replace it.
Does your car have push button or a lever??? What year is it. What is the seal number u used???? Maybe need to use a Garlock seal. The Garlock is better for accomodating any slop or paly of the shaft it its bushings. Really need more info to diagnose this problem. Measure the bore of the trans that the seal presses into. inspect shaft (if possible) to see if it s grooved or worn or has any slop in it.
Posted on: 2011/8/29 15:18
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VAPOR LOCK demystified: See paragraph SEVEN of PMCC documentaion as listed in post #11 of the following thread:f
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Re: Ultramatic leaking from the manual valve seal.
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I got the seal from Kanter (plate #35,3.577882, part #6470206. The seal just slides on the shaft without very much force needed. Is the seal suppose to lock in place or do I need to tap it so it'll seal itself?
Posted on: 2011/8/29 15:28
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It's a '56 with pushbutton. Where can I get a Garlock seal? The seal number is 3.577882 on Plate #35. Seals came from Kanter. The only thing behind the seal is a flat washer. I'm installing the seal with the open end of it facing toward the inside of the tranny. I hope this is the right way.
Posted on: 2011/8/29 15:35
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Is all of the old seal out of the housing bore? If the new seal just slides on, maybe not. On rebuilding, after the old seal is removed, they have you drive the new seal into the bore so there should be a bit of a press fit. If the old is out and new just slides on, then sounds like something is not the right size.
Posted on: 2011/8/29 15:42
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There is also another seal for the pushbutton units -
group 3131425, part # 6480730. It is a ring that doesn't fit tight on the shaft, but fits snug just inside the tranny case and the small recess in the PB casting 3.314252 part # 6484420. It is sandwiched between the PB casting and the trans casting. I would shellac the metal portion of the seal that slides on the tranny shaft even though I b*&^%d about that when I was rebuilding the Carib tranny. Edit group number is 3.31425. Page 33 in my manual.
Posted on: 2011/8/29 16:19
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Dear Hotrod:
Maybe this problem requires a new approach. I assume this leak is pretty severe, so perhaps better results may be had by using some of the old GM silicone seal maker. They used to use that stuff to make timing cover seals on Pontiacs. Chrysler also has a sealer that cures when covered with transmission oil. Rather than knocking yourself out buying seals this method might be quick and dirty enough for Eddlebrock himself. Good luck.
Posted on: 2011/8/29 17:26
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Randy,what page and/or plate number is this part number locate in the Parts book? Do I shellac just the inside of the seal or just the flat side? Also, the other seal you mentioned seems to belong to tthe actuator/gearshift control assembly. Is there a seal there or is it inside the tranny casting? Can I use any kind of RTV sealant or does it have to be a special kind?
Posted on: 2011/8/29 23:17
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Thanks Tim, where do I buy this sealant? Besides knocking myself out buying seals, my back and neck are awfully tired of working under that car in my drive way. LOL
Posted on: 2011/8/29 23:23
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