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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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I agree probably not vapor lock-put some starting fluid down the carb-if it fires-then it is not getting gas if not then electrical issue-weak coil or condenser. I would vote on weak coil based on what you described.

Posted on: 2015/4/2 16:59
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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Condenser is highly likely.

There is a standard, common NAPA part but I would have to see the box in the trunk of my car.

Mine went from the time I started the car, drove around the block and by the time I got it back in the driveway it was same symptoms.

Jim

Posted on: 2015/4/2 17:20
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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Any factory repair manual should give the specs of the coil and condenser.

I don't have a Packard manual but I do have a Chrysler one. They use a .25 mfd condenser which is a common size on 6volt systems. If your Packard used an Autolite ignition like Chrysler it may be the same.

Actual spec of Chrysler products, .25 - .28 mfd.

You could use a capacitor from an electronics shop or any similar condenser. If it won't fit in the stock location in the distributor, you can connect it to the distributor side of the coil. It will work exactly the same.

Posted on: 2015/4/2 17:40
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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I used a little starting fluid and it had no effect. I will replace the condenser This Friday and will let everyone know if it cures my problem. Thanks for all of you input.

Posted on: 2015/4/2 20:25
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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The coil and condenser form a resonate circuit.

If the condenser is open, shorted, leaky, you will get virtually no spark.

The exact value is not that critical such that any automotive ignition condenser with a value from 2 to 3 microfarads will work fine.

You have to be able to mount it in the distribut with that little short screw such that it doesn't interfere with the vacuum advance lever.

They were cheap at NAPA and the value was on the box.

theye are all the same size physically.

Jin

Posted on: 2015/4/3 10:25
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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Just to repeat, go to NAPA and get an AL-869. Install and don't forget to burnish the points because if the condenser failed, they will have oxidized; regap them of course. Then if your symptom reoccurs, temporarily rig up a universal 6-volt coil and retest.

Posted on: 2015/4/3 10:55
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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I took your advice and picked up a condenser at NAPA. Thanks.

Posted on: 2015/4/3 11:16
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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Do you know if either NAPA part number CS63A or CS725A are the correct points (breaker assembly) for a 41 Super Eight.

Posted on: 2015/4/3 13:04
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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NAPA/Echlin CS 725A is, if still available, the correct number for the heavy duty point set for that vehicle. The Standard Ignition number for the same points was (is still?) AL 5255XP. Substitute (not OEM style) point sets if these numbers are superceded may be missing the dog leg on the base plate which fitted over the eccentric screw to make gap adjustment easier but function just fine.

The NAPA/Echlin vintage car catalog pages with these and numbers for the cap, rotor, coil, condenser, generator and regulator, starter brushes and bearings, etc. has been posted on this site numerous times; scout around a bit and you should find it, I recommend you download it and print yourself a copy.

Posted on: 2015/4/3 13:08
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Re: Possible Ignition Problem
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good advice, Thank you, I'll look for the post and print it for my service records book.

Posted on: 2015/4/3 13:20
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