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Re: ZIL-111
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Eric, having worked with magnesium and its alloys for some years, let me assure you that only the very purest of magnesium can be ignited with a match. Commercial magnesium is almost exclusively alloyed to eliminate this property, usually with as little as 1% zinc which renders it unignitable, at least with common ignition sources.





I just remember as a kid, my father bought an old combine for salvage that had aircraft tires and wheel on it. When dad went to torch out the steel hub from the "aluminum" rim, the thing burst into flames. He goes, and I quote "I guess those are made of magnesium, I'd better not do that again!" The whole thing, tire and all, was gone in about 5 minutes. Of course, a propane torch isn't a "common" ignition source.

Posted on: 2009/12/26 14:45
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Eric, are you familiar with thermite bombs? We loved making these things in chemistry class. I suspect you'll find out about them if you Google the expression. One of the traditional uses was to weld railroad rail sections. We used finely pulverized magnesium dust and iron oxide, and pure molten iron was the end result. Much fun!

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I'm familiar with thermite, but I never made any bombs out of it. Thermite is pretty neat stuff actually.

Posted on: 2009/12/26 15:02
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And there is one more thing. Dave and Eric, have you ever traveled to Yekaterinburg?


I can safely say that I haven't.

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Travelled to it? Haven't even heard of it.

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Travelled to it? Haven't even heard of it.


That is exactly my feeling as well.

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I have, it's a pretty good sized and important city.

Posted on: 2009/12/26 20:57
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When I remember right VW Lupo 3L was supposed to be a car in to the future but the project got never public support, Im not sure why (at least here). Maybe to futuristic ore just the design was not that what the costumers would expect.

The Niva VAZ 2121(1976-still in production) is in my opinion one of the greatest SUVs ever. I have had only good experiences whit this car and on ruff and terrain rodes this car dose that what it was meant to do. No doubt about it.
The pumper design for the Niva was also later used by VAZ 2105 and 2107.

A cast iron pumper for a ZIL 111 sound a logical explanation.
I think the reason why the pumper is so heavy is more to do whit the fact that at those times the material for it was in plenty.

OMG Guscha that ZIL 111 has been burned to a crisp.
It remember to me a scene from the movie "Christine"
I think the missing pumper can be explained by the fact that someone must have ripped it off the car before they started the fire. Its one possible explanation.
Yekaterinburg is a place from what I have heard but never have been there.

Posted on: 2009/12/27 5:56
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Between 1924 and 1991 the name of the town was Sverdlovsk.

Thanks, and sure, heard and read of it many times.

Posted on: 2009/12/27 9:30
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