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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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Eric Boyle
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I also found time to mount my "new" ID plate that I recently won on eBay for cheap, it's from a 1933 Packard Super Eight. I find it's more fitting than the 1909 one I had on there before, but means I'd have to change my year from 1925 to 1933, oh well the car doesn't know what year to be anyway!

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Posted on: 2008/10/20 2:02
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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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Eric,

Took the top off the trans today, looks good inside and shifts well too. Then looked at the shift forks and they are also good.
BUT....then came disassembly of the forks from the trans top and here I wasn't sure what to do.
So first up the Motors Manual - no help. Then I remembered the article that Peter Toet did and posted in the Packardinfo General Forum:https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=1035&forum=4 Had a look at that, but it didn't give any info on taking the forks out of the trans top. What to do? Why ring the author of course! So rang Peter and he advised, and the memory stirred when he said it, that he is in the process of modifying a pair of forks for you Eric and will mail them when done! What a guy, although he did say that it could still be a little while before they are done. Offered to give him my forks in replacement for the ones he's doing for you but he waved that aside so now I'll keep the trans and top as a complete unit.

again Peter - Another

Posted on: 2008/10/21 1:16
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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I hadn't forgotten about that, but it did slip my mind when I read your post about the trans. You guy's from Australia never cease to amaze me when it comes to your helpfulness!

As for removing the forks, it took me some doing and tapping, but I got 'em out. I just hope it all goes back together ok when the time comes.

Posted on: 2008/10/21 3:31
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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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Hello! Was browsing the forum, when the turbos caught my interest. I like the turbo idea, but two will have way too much lag, and boost will come in too high in RPM. I turbo charged my father's 1948 Packard 327 Fastback. Used original exhaust and intake manifold with draw through system. Ran into vavle float before we had to worry about anything else (like blown head gaskets). Didn't get to fully test the system before it was removed and put back to stock in one weekend. I would use one T3 unit from a Ford T-bird or Mustang SVO with the Super 60 compressor housing in a draw through system. If it's a Super 8 you're working on, they you may only need to change the Exhaust housing to the .63 A/R instead of the 0.48 unit that comes with the Chrysler tubos you have. I will try to find the pictures, but they are currently lost.

Posted on: 2008/10/21 16:36
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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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Hmm, interesting point of view. I've been told by several people that my turbo's are too small, and will spool up too quickly, and by others that two of them are too much and won't spool up until too high an RPM. And still others that tell me the smaller TB0335 Chrysler turbos are perfect for my engine (They came off a 122cid engine, so two of those would be 244cid, still under my 327). The engine that I'm building is a 9 main version of the one you turbo'd, so basically the same thing, 327cid. Mine will have larger valves however, if it matters. I went small on the turbo's because I wanted faster spoolup since the RPM's are limited to 4000. Everything that I've read on turbocharging has told me that these are the ideal turbos for running a twin draw through setup for this size of engine. I guess I'll just see how well it works, but I've researched this extensively before I got this far. Please don't think I'm dissing you, I do appreciate the input and would love to know more about your project.

Posted on: 2008/10/21 20:15
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Turbopackman (or may I call you Eric?)
If you plan to spin that engine over 3000 to 5000 quit a bit, then the calculations you did are right on. My father did not want me to grenade his engine, being completely original with 60K+ miles, and only 7 mains. I used the Super 60 T3 to bring in max boost by ~2000-2500 rpm. During our short test runs, we only saw 5 psi in first gear before the valves floated (no tach so I could only assume ~3200 rpm as it didn't sound like it was wound up). Didn't get the chance to wind it out in the upper gears. Even so, you may very well be on the right track, as you don't want to apply too much boost to that flathead. I used an original WCFB and only had to change the primary needles.

Currently working on a 1929 version of Colonel Jesse Vincent's speedster. 626 chassis with a '30 Super 8 engine. Have a long ways to go with family and life going on, but will start getting on it again this winter. Still trying to find old photos

Keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Mitch

Posted on: 2008/10/21 22:27
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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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Mitch, it sounds like you and I are essentially doing the same car, more or less. As for your father's engine, it was a 5 main, Packard only made 5 main and 9 main straight eights.

Most of my rpm's will be in the sub-3000 range, with occasional bursts upwards for $hits and giggles. This is where the turbo's come in.

As for my carburetor choice, it's still up in the air, but I'm leaning towards my '56 Patrician Rochester 4gc, converted to E85 use. (If possible)

And therein lies the big secret, E85, with 8:1 compression with about a total of 12:1 compression, if she'll handle it. Keep in mind that this is not going to be a stock rebuild by any means. A lot of special touches will be involved, all to be revealed in good time.

As for your '30 Super Eight, I'd try to find a '36 Super Eight, as it'd be cheaper to overhaul than the babbitt '30.

And of course you can call me Eric!

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Posted on: 2008/10/22 1:39
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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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turbo289 wrote: Turbopackman (or may I call you Eric?)........Currently working on a 1929 version of Colonel Jesse Vincent's speedster. 626 chassis with a '30 Super 8 engine........Mitch


G'day Mitch,

Call him Eric, I do and so do the rest on board here!

I see you come from Nampa Idaho, near to Middleton where I bought my '41 Coupe last year. Also do you know Earl 'Doc' Gulley who was the previous owner of the Coupe and lives at Caldwell and had about 10 Packards when I visited him last year when I bought the Coupe?

And could you please add your '29 Speedster to the Owner Registry and your Dad's '48 together with pic's, and histories if known?

Sorry Eric for going

Now to return to normal programming

Posted on: 2008/10/22 1:45
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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Re: Eric's 1925 Packard Barchetta Speedster Project
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Eric,
Thank you for the photos! Would love to see the car in person and take lots of photos.

Yes, my mistake, engine was a 5 main bearing. Kind of hard to fit 7 eveningly on an 8 cyl.

Oh!! I found the photos of the '48 that I turbocharged.

Mal,
Let me take a couple of photos then I'll post my speedster on the registry. My Dad's '48 was sold 3 years ago, and went back East. He currently owns a '53 Clipper 2dr post. I'll get a couple of photos of that and add it as well.

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Posted on: 2008/10/26 13:16
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turbo289 wrote:.......Oh!! I found the photos of the '48 that I turbocharged.

Mal,
Let me take a couple of photos then I'll post my speedster on the registry. My Dad's '48 was sold 3 years ago, and went back East. He currently owns a '53 Clipper 2dr post. I'll get a couple of photos of that and add it as well.


Mitch,

Thanks for the pic's of the turboed '48.

Looking forward to the Owner Registry entries of your Speedster and your Dad's '53 Clipper.


Posted on: 2008/10/26 14:24
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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