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Re: ZIS 110
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I have a trivial question...this schematic shows only one hose into each lift cylinder. I know the later systems used two (fluid in and fluid out). What would happen if two windows were halfway lowered and simultaneously the switch fer one was depressed--opening the solenoid and the other was raised--opening the solenoid and activating the pump. Would they both rise?

Posted on: 2009/4/9 23:12
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I can't answer that from experience since it's wildly unlikely that my Limo will ever have working hydraulic windows, but I believe your supposition is correct... both windows would rise.

Posted on: 2009/4/9 23:26
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Packard never used a 2 hose system on windows--just convertible tops. In addition to both windows raising in your question, another interesting thing is if the pump pressure is too high, just raising one window can push another valve open or off it's seat and any lowered window will also raise without it's switch being touched.

Posted on: 2009/4/10 22:56
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I know I'm frequently full of hot air, but I do not smoke!

Posted on: 2009/4/11 14:02
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2 hose system would be pressure applied on either side of the piston to force raise or lower. That would require the reversible pump like 55-6 convertibles or the reversing valve as in 48-54 convertibles. The windows always had just a single hose at bottom of piston. They were very inexpensive cylinders but adequate for the purpose--until they leak.

Posted on: 2009/4/11 16:56
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With regard to the quote--there is no master control, but there are controls for the rear windows beside the ashtray. Lincoln did not provide front controls for the rear windows on the prewar Customs or postwar sedans equipped with hydraulic regulators. Chrysler appears to have provided switches for all four windows on the 1941 and 1942 Imperial Town Sedans at the center of the dash, presumably by the ashtray.

Posted on: 2009/4/13 16:42
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Looks like two starter solenoids that have been linked together. Weird stuff.

Posted on: 2009/4/15 20:10
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Re: ZIS 110
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It is two electrical solenoids. The tube connecting them at the center indicates they are mechanically interlocked so both cannot be on at same time. If it is part of your hydraulic window setup, it would pobably be used as the control for the reversing pump

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Posted on: 2009/4/15 20:12
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Howard,

Gotcha. Today we would replace that with 2 bosch style relays to handle the current reversing.

Posted on: 2009/4/15 20:15
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Quick and inexpensive way to do it and they probably had lots of room for the assy. You're right, today we'd use two relays with a set of N.O. and N.C. contacts each. N.O. set would energize the respective solenoid and N.C set would break the control to other relay--an integrated circuit would do both. Doing it then would probably cost 3-4 times what that did.

Posted on: 2009/4/15 20:32
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