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brake help
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Could some one please give me the original wagner FD number for the master cylinder on a 49 Deluxe. I've seen here in a posting and cannot find it. The funny or ironic part is, I participated in the posting.

Posted on: 2012/12/2 20:00
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If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

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Master cylinder service unit assembly is FE-1134.

Posted on: 2012/12/2 21:19
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Re: brake help
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Thank you!

Posted on: 2012/12/2 22:01
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If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

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Bust. Went to get a master cylinder and using that number to cross over and it's not the same. Pulled mine off and the casting number in it is FE 1108. Anybody got info on this one. Not having much luck with this number either. I can get a rebuild kit for mine, but the bore may end up oversize when I hone the ripples out. Thank you in advance for all who assist.

Posted on: 2012/12/3 17:12
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If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

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My Wagner master catalog also gives FE-1134. If you can't find an interchange at the local auto parts store with that #, you can buy a new master cylinder from Kanter Auto.

Posted on: 2012/12/3 17:20
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Re: brake help
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Yes I can, but that is in upwards of $170.00, plus shipping, plus brokerage, plus duty to here in Ontario, Canada. I would prefer to replace my master due to what the reservoir looks like inside, but a $32.00 rebuild kit is looking pretty good right now. The one I did get, although was wrong was only $93.00. I'll get a rag out now and wipe my tears, because of the whining I am posting.(LOL)

Posted on: 2012/12/3 18:20
If it won't move, get a bigger wrench.
If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

Mark

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Interesting, isnt it. Seems almost nobody even considers rebuilding wheel cylinders and master cylinders anymore, most everyone just jumps right to purchasing new units. Not that many years ago you almost never bought new unless the pitting was really severe or they had been honed so many times the cylinders began to develop a bell mouth shape. Absolutely nothing wrong with honing and putting a kit into a master or wheel cylinder as long as a simple hone cleans up the surface. Hope you find a kit, did you ask Kanters or Max if they have rebuild kits?

PS - the same Wagner catalog should also list the master cylinder kit # and I'd be glad to look that up for you.

Posted on: 2012/12/3 18:34
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Thanks for the offer Owen. I can get a kit here likely before lunch if I call first thing in the morning. I just came in from the shop after honing the master and it's measuring about .005 over one inch. The original seals are measuring .030 over one inch. That's enough to make a seal, so new ones will be much better. Also, I put everything back together just for fun and was getting good sealing. Do I dare??? Naw..don't think so, but I bet it would work. But that would be for desperate times. Almost all the ripples came out after honing, I got a really nice shiney finish, just like when I was rebuilding hydraulic cylinders for a living. New seals are going to make a world of difference, and I also think I could get another re-build out of the casting down the road. I still want to find another master cyinder, so tomorrow, I will post a picture of the casting. Maybe someone will know where I can get one. Also thought of trying some forklift companies. Lots of forklifts around from the time of Moses and parts should still be available. Again, thanks for the offer of help Owen.

Posted on: 2012/12/3 21:31
If it won't move, get a bigger wrench.
If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

Mark

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Here's my master cylinder. Any ideas?

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Posted on: 2012/12/4 8:54
If it won't move, get a bigger wrench.
If it breaks, it needed fixing anyway.

Mark

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If the cost of a master cylinder exceeds $100 you might consider sending the old one to White Post and having it sleeved. The sleeve maybe lasts forever since it is either brass or stainless steel. Last time I had that done the cost was about $75.

Posted on: 2012/12/4 10:26
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