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Re: Someone hooked the battery up backwards / new member 55 Clipper Deluxe
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Thanks for the clarification

Posted on: 12/13 19:24
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Re: Someone hooked the battery up backwards / new member 55 Clipper Deluxe
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Howard, I took a look my engine and the casting number is 440275, what is listed for the 352's. However, I definitely have a '55 Clipper Deluxe. There's no signs that I can tell of it being engine-swapped (though I don't actually know the history of the car so for all I know it was). To try to settle the matter I tried to look for the VN on the engine but I can't find it anywhere...


Pictures are attached: casting number, VN plate, and 2 of where the Engine VN should be but isn't (I don't know if it's obvious but the first one is looking at below the oil filter, tight space :/ ).

I do have a caliper (somewhere 🤔) so I can take precision measurements of something what could narrow things down if needed.

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Posted on: 12/14 18:52
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Re: Someone hooked the battery up backwards / new member 55 Clipper Deluxe
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The engine number should be on the block in the flat spot just in front of but almost under the oil filter. It could be faintly stamped and may take a bit of cleaning and scraping of grease & dirt for it to appear. Being a Deluxe it should be a 320 but with the casting number wanting it to be a 352, if you cannot find any number at all it could also be a service replacement engine.

There is a notice in one of the later Studebaker written service bulletins which was published in the late 50s saying they had found quite a few Packard 352 replacement engines in a warehouse and were offering them to dealers for almost nothing to get rid of them. Even suggested dealers stock up and call some of their customers and see if any of them wanted to buy a new engine or an engine upgrade at dirt cheap prices.

It was kind of sad how much they must have wanted to get rid of them because IIRC, there was another notice where they also suggested dealers make the same offer to 56 owners with 374 engines. Said the price was so low and performance difference with the 352 would be negligible the customer might appreciate the savings over the size.

Posted on: 12/14 19:26
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Re: Someone hooked the battery up backwards / new member 55 Clipper Deluxe
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Most of the things you're pointing at are bolt-ons or casting numbers but the engine number is stamped into the block itself, not on something that can be removed or replaced.

This photo was taken from the front looking back and the number is right next to the oil filler tube to the driver's side. For those not here in the U.S., that's the left side of the car. You might not be able to clean the number well enough to read it with the coolant manifold in the way, though.

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Posted on: 12/14 19:49
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Re: Someone hooked the battery up backwards / new member 55 Clipper Deluxe
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And if you can't find the motor number where PackardDon has shown, then the Utica engine plant number could be used for engine identification, though it's s totally different in format and unlike the motor up front it won't inform if the motor is original to the car. The Utica number can be viewed from below, passenger (right) side, on the block at the very rear just below the cylinder head. It will begin with a letter, A, B, C, etc.

Posted on: 12/14 21:05
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Re: Someone hooked the battery up backwards / new member 55 Clipper Deluxe
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Thanks for the info guys! I took these pictures at night and couldn't really reach in to do a proper wipedown of the VN area. I'll be back at least by this Saturday with a rag and some time to wipe it down and know for sure. I was assuming the VN would be raised like the others but obviously it makes sense that it's not...

Looking at the specifications it looks like the ONLY differing feature on these engines (352/320) is the bore dia. I'll bring my caliper for when I get one of the heads off.

Posted on: 12/15 5:21
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