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Folding Rear Seat
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Keegan Chaput
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As if the trunk is not big enough, I've been toying with the idea of making the rear seat fold down to allow more cargo area in the Clipper.

I know that there is bracing behind the seat. I assume that it's sole purpose is for supporting the seat back cushion. If that's the case, then I could just add additional bracing on the cushion frame itself. Allowing me to remove the cross brace welded in the car. (two of the welds have broken already)

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the subject.

I've got a few other interior questions as well, but I'll start a new thread for each one.

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Posted on: 2010/2/28 15:53
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Re: Folding Rear Seat
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Don't remove the bracing, it's for body rigidity.

Posted on: 2010/2/28 15:56
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If those brace were merely for supporting the seatback, they wouldn't need to be run on a diagonal.

Looks more like trusswork for the body structure to me.

Posted on: 2010/2/28 16:31
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Re: Folding Rear Seat
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They are just so flimsy. I can't see how they're adding much rigidity to the body structure.

The ones on my car don't add anything at all. The welds are broken.

I guess I could design a removable brace that could be removed and replaced easily.

Posted on: 2010/2/28 16:42
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Re: Folding Rear Seat
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Not only do not remove the X-braces, but you need to fix the existing broken welds.

Of course you could fabricate a different cross brace arrangement which would allow you to have a fold-down rear seat or maybe better yet utilize the fold down center arm rest on the Sr cars. In the latter case, a rectangle behind the arm rest cutout with X-braces off of it will still provide the body support you need.

Be aware that the 4dr and 2dr rear seat frames are different if you are looking for a Sr fold down arm rest. Srs will fit the Jrs and vice versa with the same number of doors.

Craig

Posted on: 2010/2/28 16:46
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Re: Folding Rear Seat
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They are just so flimsy. I can't see how they're adding much rigidity to the body structure.


Mechanical engineering tells you that the "X" provides its structural rigidity due to TENSION along those "flimsy" struts, i.e., they do NOT elongate when a tension is applied. They are there for body rigidity...believe it.

Craig

Posted on: 2010/2/28 16:57
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Re: Folding Rear Seat
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So keep the bracing!! Thanks guys.

I'll seriously consider the fold-down arm rest idea. That would be quite a bit easier than making the whole thing hinge out of the way.

Posted on: 2010/2/28 17:06
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Keegan, think for a moment about how structurally rigid the body would be at the front without a cowl, and then apply that thinking to the rear of the body and I think you'll see the need for bracing behind the rear seat.

Posted on: 2010/2/28 20:01
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Re: Folding Rear Seat
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Craig has convinced me with his suggestion of the folding arm rest. Best of both worlds. Keep a nice solid brace and a large (12x17) opening through the rear seat.

Once the pieces are in place I'll follow up.

Posted on: 2010/2/28 22:13
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