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1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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markinroseburg
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Finally going to try and get my 51 Patty running. Trouble is I am having a heck of a time finding parts at my local stores. NO one seems to have books that go that far back - and the pimple faced kids behind the counter thought a Packard was a computer. I am sure it is an autolite system. The Standard Ignition book I was able to get my mitts on was not helpful. Any part numbers and help would be kindly accepted.
Mark

Posted on: 2011/6/13 10:56
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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Charts with current Standard and Echlin/NAPA numbers have been posted on this site quite a few times - search around a bit and you should find them easily. Most of these parts, excepting vacuum advance diaphragms and one particular set of Auto-Lite points, are commonly available once you know the numbers. Or you could always go to Kanter's or Max and buy their tune-up kits. If you can't find the charts, let us know and I'll dig them out and repost yet again.

Posted on: 2011/6/13 11:00
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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What parts are you looking for exactly? Also have you checked the Parts X-Ref here on the website?

Posted on: 2011/6/13 11:01
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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Dave, I wonder if we can get those parts numbers extracted from the Napa catalog and put into the X-Ref. Might be helpful going forward.

Posted on: 2011/6/13 11:05
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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While we are on this, I have a question for my '50. My starter solenoid seems to have gone out, does anyone know of a place to get one of those, and do the rebuild kits take care of them? I would like to get it locally to save time, if that is possible. Is there a crossover part number for that? We have a NAPA about 30 miles away. My car is Autolite, it's a 327.

Posted on: 2011/6/13 11:11
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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Kev - here they are again. If you have a way to "extract" the data, great. BTW, the AL-5255XP points are discontinued but replaced by a substitute number which I have jotted down somewhere but it escapes me for the moment.

PS - found it, replaced by Standard's AL-869.

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Posted on: 2011/6/13 11:50
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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The points AL-5255 are Packard 354263 which fit 40-50 160/180/Custom with 356 motor. We have plenty in stock.

There is a question from Paul Weeks on a starter solenoid for a 1950, but the exact model is not stated nor is Autolite/Delco specified. Thsi information is essential to identify exactly what part is needed. If it is a Custom 8/356, then the solenoid is Packard only and not available in the aftermarket.

There is/was no rebuild kit available in the aftermarket

Posted on: 2011/6/13 14:13
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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I added many of the ignition parts from the Echlin list above to the Parts X-Ref.

Posted on: 2011/6/13 14:14
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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Wow, what a wealth of information!! I am going to print the attachments and keep them with the car's folder. Much thanks O.D. and Kevin.

Fred, as far as the solenoid goes, it turns out I don't need it! The battery was mostly dead, lights lighted but no engine turn over. My brother-in-law thought the key "off' position was the far left, accessory position. It was in that position for 5 or 6 days! Those dry cell batteries are a wonder!

Thanks again for the information, after I wash my baby, we are going for a drive!

Posted on: 2011/6/13 16:56
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Re: 1951 Patrician Ignition pieces
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fred kanter
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Paul,

Good news, all's well that ends well. Now you might consider replacing your brother-in-law.

Posted on: 2011/6/13 18:02
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