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Here are 38 more pictures of the car. With these you can better assess it's condition:flickr.com/photos/disneybymark/sets/72157627470029817/

I updated the above link with more pictures!

Mark:

I am in Hawaii for three weeks on vacation. If you call me at (808) 306-5148, perhaps I can help you with identifying your car and it's history.

Jim Wayman
640 Phaeton

Mark,
I have a 1922/3 126 Packard (Sport) that I have owned for many years and have just checked some of the literature. The original sales brochure does not show the body style of your car, however the original parts book lists all of the 126 body styles and the body numbers; #232 is listed as a "Permanent Top Touring",which describes your car perfectly. Unfortunately there are no illustrations but based on that I would say that your car has a genuine Packard body as opposed to a non Packard hardtop or Californion Top fitted to standard tourer body tourer. It is strange that it is not shown in the sales brochure, all of the other body styles are shown. Nice car.

Many Thanks David,

"Permanent Top Touring" that really describes it. Kinda a hybrid. The lack of side windows is an issue as they cant be found. I imagine that they were like a touring car but the connectors are different. I need to research this more!

Mark,

The salesman's Facts Book for the 126-133 Packard Single Six starts under the heading: "Body Types" "There are eleven distinct body types mounted on the Single Six Chassis of 126" and 133" wheelbases. The Five passenger Touring, five passenger Permanent Top Touring, Runabout, four passenger Sport, ..........etc. The shipping weights at the back also list the Permanent Top Touring - weight is 3,360 lbs.

There is a good photo of the #232 body style on page 150 of the Damman Packard book along with a write up that is a bit long to repeat however the gist of it was that the bodies we out sourced by Packard, it "had rollup windows in all four doors which would retract to sill level. With the windows down, the B pillars could be unsnapped and stored under the back seat. ....etc.

There is also a brief mention of this body style on page 247 of the Kimes Packard book (First edition)

If you care to send me you address by PM I could copy this material and send it to you.

I recently purchased this car and three others. I found that it was last sold in 1987 by the William Harrah Foundation at auction. The car has been stored for the last 25 years. Now in the process of fluid changes and an attempt to start and drive. I would appreciate any advise for this journey.

Quote:G'day 65ZR1,
to PackardInfo, I'll let others better versed in this era of Packard provide the advise you seek. But I invite you to include the '23 Touring Sedan, together with any of the other 3 cars if they are Packards, in the Packard Owner's Registry here on PackardInfo.

65ZR1,
I would at least drop the oil pan and clean it and everything else you can get at while its off. These cars have no oil filter apart from course gauze around the water pump. I would also remove the engine side plate to clean out the water ways around the block, which will probably result in the need to fit thread inserts in the small UNF bolts that attach the side cover. The side cover has a water distribution plate inside to equalise the flow along the block. This typically rusts away. Details of a replacement are available if you need them. Then the fuel system will probably need cleaning out. Distributer points and spark plugs need checking.
If it does not start try lightly flooding the carburetor and pushing the choke in most of the way.
Now its possible given the history of the car that it was restored then placed in Harrah's museum in which case it could be pristine inside but I would check it before trying to start it.
Take your time, this car is worth preserving. Keep us informed of progress and ask for help if you need it.

Thank you for the guidance we are moving forward carefully.