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Friday 19th August 2011
What was going just be a drop-in at the workshop turned into something a little longer. Reason for the drop-in was to see Barry Smith's '38 Twelve Club Sedan in the metal. Barry had driven it down from his home at Tamworth, Tamworth being about 250 miles north west from Sydney. Barry did the the trip in two stages, about 200 miles, on Wednesday, and 115 miles, on Thursday, this better suiting his trip planning. This on a freshly and fully restored Packard that now has a total of only 400 miles on the clock. Ran flawlessly without any problems or dramas. Barry told me, besides the usual Packard chit-chat, that he'd sourced NOS and re-pro parts for the Twelve from, amongst others, the recently deceased Dick Benjamin and The Flackmaster. The Twelve is now being cleaned, primped and preened for it's Concours debut on Sunday. Lots of cleaning and polishing, which I interrupted by taking pictures and talking to Barry about certain things on the Twelve as they caught my attention. Barry will get some cleaning help on Saturday because some of his Tamworth mates are coming down and will be pressed into service to clean and polish every under car nut, bolt, nook and cranny. Because unfortunately, on the second part of the trip, the Twelve was accompanied by rain so road grime needs to be removed. Speaking of rain, it's raining here today with the forecast being for more rain Saturday, tomorrow, easing off to occasional rain and showers on Sunday for the Concours. Here's hoping it's a lot better than that on the day! While Barry was cleaning and polishing, cleaning and polishing and cleaning and polishing, Wade was working on The Fossil and had fitted the re-chromed taillight stanchions and lenses and connected up the stop and taillight wiring. Wade had then moved onto remounting the rear bumper and that's why my drop-in become more than a drop-in. Was pressed into service by Wade for the bumper remount. The bolts used to temporarily hold the rear panel in place were removed and new bolts together with the bumper bracket clamp and chrome cover were readied. Moved the bumper into place and after a trial fit and a couple of adjustments for centering, it was bolted in and tightened up. Next stop Sunday and the Shannon's Eastern Creek Classic. Attach file: (34.52 KB) (32.01 KB) (37.43 KB) (21.45 KB) (34.44 KB) (35.83 KB) (34.91 KB) (25.08 KB) (33.97 KB) (28.08 KB) (22.37 KB) (24.21 KB) (15.58 KB) (17.15 KB) (23.25 KB) (25.42 KB)
Posted on: 2011/8/19 0:43
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Re: Wade's Workshop
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Monday 22nd & Tuesday 23rd August 2011
Although at the workshop on Monday didn't post, instead doing double duty for that now. On Sunday during the course of the Eastern Creek Classic Wade picked up a spare R6 OD courtesy of PeterL. The trouble was that Peter hadn't parked his '38 Eight Touring Sedan with our Packard club's Packards but with his local car club whose display area was situated on the other side of the venue. Wade was pooped by the time he finished lugging the OD back to Big Red. Still, the missing major ingredients for Noel's R6 OD rebuild were now to hand. By the time I arrived at the workshop Wade had already dis-assembled the R6 and had started cleaning parts for the transfer to Noel's OD. But first the Solenoid needed to be affixed to the OD mounting plate. This is hard enough to do in the car but maybe even more so when the spring on the actuating rod isn't constrained like it is when the OD housing is bolted on the mounting plate. Spring has to be held back and the actuating rod inserted into the pawl, I think that's what it is. Ended up having to make a "Special Packard Tool" out of a piece of scrap steel, which I then held in a pair of pliers while Wade held the solenoid at an angle together with holding the actuating arm with small long nosed pliers to prevent it slipping back, which it does if any pressure is applied to it. This was still difficult to do but became fairly expert at it by the time we'd finished. Next was testing of the Solenoid. But it wouldn't co-operate, instead it resulted in burning smells. This was one of the reasons we became expert at clipping the actuating rod into the pawl. Lots of re-assembly and dis-assembly and, as I said to Noel in an email, there was progress but it was of the two steps forward and one step back type of progress. The solenoid was disassembled, at least the "top" part of the unit was, the bottom part containing the coils was left intact. Besides, if there was anything wrong with the coils, replacements aren't exactly readily available. What was found was that the contacts all needed a real good clean and that a washer between the phenolic plate and the base of the unit had come adrift. Once cleaned up and re-assembled, worked fine. About here I have a small confession to make. Said to Wade "I have a OD solenoid at home, I bought off eBay a couple of years ago". Went home to retrieve it only to find it was an OD governor! Boy, was I embarrassed. Especially as R6's don't use a governor! From there it was onto cleaning and parts re-assembly in earnest. These were complementary tasks with parts added to the OD, in sequence, once cleaned. At each step, sun gear added, planetary gears and casing added, planetary gear housing added, sprag clutch added all was checked to ensure everything fitted correctly. All went well until the sprag clutch was fitted, This is the last step before the OD housing is then fitted to the back of the trans and OD mounting plate. After the retaining bolt was tightened, everything bound up! Loosen off the bolt a fraction and the mainshaft turns! This led to a number of dis-assembly and re-assembly attempts trying to find where the problem might lie. Eventually through some trial fittings of washers of different thickness a fix was found where the assembly rotated without binding up. Progress again, but to Wade it "didn't feel right", but by this time the day was done so further diagnostics weren't undertaken. Besides a nights reflection on the problem wouldn't hurt. Wade had also received a package from the US, containing a pinion seal for one of the Packards owned by Harvey's boss and a rear axle oil seal kit for Noel's '39. In addition, when I arrived home, I also had a package from the US, see this thread. Contained parts from The Flackmaster for Noel - a book, Harvey - '37 Super 8 bonnet(hood) louvre and from BigKev for Wade - a set of door latches, from a Packard vendor who doesn't ship outside the US , and for me - 2 gearshift knobs, a starter solenoid and a heater valve. DAF & BigKev! That brings us to Tuesday. Rang Harvey and, because I was passing his house on another matter, arranged that I'd drop off his louvre and pinion seal, But first had to pick up the pinion seal from the workshop where Wade told me he also had to run an errand that morning so it all dovetailed together. Back at the workshop turned again to the R6 OD. Although the mechanism was together, except for the OD housing Wade "didn't feel right" with it, so again it came off the back of the trans. The spare trans with R9 OD was also hoisted up on a bench and the OD dis-assembled, although it's not the same as an R6, it's similar enough to provide some help and guidance. It was a struggle to pull the R9 apart to obtain one spacer for comparison and possibly replacement purposes because someone, and it wasn't Wade, had re-assembled the R9 incorrectly. The spacer out of the R9 was 0.055" thick against 0.070" thick for the spacer from the R6. Wade was looking for a thicker spacer, so that effort turned out to be all for naught. But what it did do was turn our attention back to the R6 and it's trans. Not noticeable until an extra careful inspection revealed it was a very small burr on the mainshaft where the spacer seated. Didn't really look like it could contribute to Wade's "didn't feel right" feeling but it proved to be so. An in situ repair was carried out to save the trans having to be being totally dis-assembled, the mainshaft fixed and then re-assembled. All entry points to the trans were filled and masked then using a very small file the burr was "deburred" and the mainshaft and area around it very carefully cleaned. Still another re-assembly of the OD components and this time it felt right! Can't remember the exact words in "The Book" but it talks about there being imperceptible movement once the components are assembled. We had that before but in rotating the assembly it seemed tight, for want of a better word. In comparison the R9 was bloody tight but now we knew why with the spacer in the wrong place there. Now besides imperceptible movement the assembly rotated much more freely, although it would be going to far to say you could spin it! Now for the last parts, putting the sprag clutch rollers in place then installing the OD housing. After a good application of grease to the sprag clutch to hold the 12 rollers in place, the clutch was loaded up and a rubber band used to secure the rollers for the fitting of the OD housing. Only took two attempts, first time when turning the uni flange to jiggle the mechanism into place I did it the wrong way allowing the rollers to release, second time I got it right! As I'd said earlier to Noel, progress was on the two steps forward one step backwards basis but finally we're in a position where it all caught up and the trans/OD unit is ready to go back in the '39. Attach file: (25.65 KB) (53.14 KB) (40.09 KB) (26.85 KB) (29.82 KB) (25.96 KB) (35.56 KB) (44.22 KB) (31.48 KB) (40.78 KB) (26.49 KB) (31.15 KB) (35.74 KB) (35.92 KB) (34.53 KB) (36.58 KB) (40.00 KB) (28.67 KB) (31.50 KB) (47.32 KB) (32.93 KB) (34.77 KB) (26.28 KB) (36.45 KB) (39.01 KB) (35.34 KB)
Posted on: 2011/8/23 23:27
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Re: Wade's Workshop
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...Although the mechanism was together, except for the OD housing Wade "didn't feel right" with it, so again it came off the back of the trans... Mal, be prepared because at a certain level of expertise it will be difficult to distinguish between craftsmanship and magic. "...As a professor, I emphasize design as a philosophy, not a practice. Minimalism is one of the ideas I introduce, eliminating everything to leave the very soul, the very essence--what chefs do with nouvelle cuisine. I bring books to class that help expand the students' thinking. A favorite of mine is Wabi-Sabi for Artists, Designers, Poets & Philosophers. Wabi-sabi is the Japanese aesthetic of imperfection. At a certain level of expertise, you can play at imperfection, intentionally making something imperfect to achieve a kind of perfection. If you see a real master, whether a chef or a baseball player, once they reach the very top of their craft, sometimes they do a little different thing that bends the rules, and that gives them the edge. ..." [Jinbae Park, Interior Design Faculty] sources quotation:http://www.fitnyc.edu/4157.asp picture: www.geburtstagsgeschenk-online.de inspiration: Mal magic: Wade Attach file: (17.52 KB)
Posted on: 2011/8/24 2:36
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Gerd, You've done it again!
Posted on: 2011/8/24 3:13
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Mal,
Are those door latches similar to the one I posted that about a couple of weeks ago? If so I had those also. :)
Posted on: 2011/8/24 10:47
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-BigKev
1954 Packard Clipper Deluxe Touring Sedan -> Registry | Project Blog 1937 Packard 115-C Convertible Coupe -> Registry | Project Blog |
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BigKev wrote:.....If so I had those also..... Now you tell me!
Posted on: 2011/8/24 16:47
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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I didn't know you needed them! lol
Posted on: 2011/8/24 17:21
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-BigKev
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I wondered about the postcard that you got with your delivery Mal. Perhaps it is ment to inform us that they are 'rear end' specialists? Harry, what do you think? And Harry replied ...
Posted on: 2011/8/28 9:49
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Monday 29th August 2011
Thursday of last week had a call from Wade enquiring whether I'd be at the workshop on Friday. Reason being he'd had a call from Wendy, Emily's owner, that Emily had sprung a leak returning from the display day the previous Sunday. If I was going to be in then we'd go and pick up Emily, but unfortunately I wasn't going to be there. So first up this morning off we went to pick up Emily. Well, never has a At the workshop first the fan came off, Wade tells me it was very hot against the radiator removing the fan bolts. Then the fan belt was loosened but couldn't get the fan pulley off the water pump, because there wasn't enough clearance between the pump and the radiator. No drain plug at the bottom of the radiator or in the lower radiator hose so the radiator hose inlet to the water pump was loosened and water allowed to escape. Then removed the water pump to block bolts, juggling the fan pulley to suit bolt removal. Pump out, backing plate off and, besides the rust stains from the leak, turning the impeller by hand found a fair bit of movement present. The reason for this became clear once the fun pulley boss was pressed off and the impeller and shaft pressed out. The impeller had been riding forward and has shaved metal out of the blades, base and the pump housing. Wade's magic shelf wasn't so magic today with the only '37 water pump there being the original out of Old Blue, which was replaced years ago, and was in worse condition than Emily's. Pump body, impeller and fan pulley boss all cleaned up ready for transportation tomorrow to Anglade Engineering via ABC Bearings for pump seal and bearings to replace the worn bushings. Next, moved on to Emily's accelerator linkage. This was going to addressed last year when Emily was in the workshop receiving treatment prior to the Kangaroo Island National Rally. Definitely being addressed this time round because Wade found there wasn't much oomph when he put his foot to the floor. And me, following behind, just thought he was driving Emily in the courteous manner she expects! At some stage in Emily's past the carburettor has been replaced, probably with one off a Holden 6, seems to be fairly common practice in Oz for 6 cylinder Packards. The carb is unlikely to be a problem though, it's the linkages which are a concern. There is a lot, make that a whole lot, of slop between depressing the accelerator pedal and the carburettor butterfly opening. The linkage has been removed from Emily, dis-assembled, cleaned and the cross shaft, cross shaft bracket and other parts will also make the trip to Anglade for repair and/or replacement. Attach file: (32.99 KB) (27.81 KB) (22.15 KB) (15.90 KB) (36.81 KB) (33.04 KB) (28.05 KB) (25.13 KB) (22.99 KB) (17.82 KB) (43.37 KB) (25.53 KB) (38.71 KB) (29.66 KB) (33.42 KB) (32.40 KB) (28.03 KB) (29.20 KB) (26.84 KB) (24.80 KB)
Posted on: 2011/8/29 3:27
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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