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Any Packs every have both key ignition and hand-crank starters?
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Garrett Meadows
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Was there ever a transition period from the hand-crank starter to the key ignition starter when Packards had both, in case one or the other failed?

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Posted on: 2016/4/16 14:24
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Re: Any Packs every have both key ignition and hand-crank starters?
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Garrett, no specifics but it was common practice after electric starters were first fitted to have a hole in the bottom center of the grille/radiator so a hand crank could be used. I believe this practice continued into the mid-1930s. Others may have more accurate information on this.

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Posted on: 2016/4/16 14:29
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I agree with JW, but just think about it; a straight 8 (320 or 384 CI) to hand crank. I know they're low pressure engines but still it would be quiet a job to hand start a cold engine.

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I know that the talk revolves around Packards but for entertaining reasons I can't resist to mention, that hand-crank starters survived the turn of the millenium ... in Russia.

Posted on: 2016/4/16 14:48
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I have a Tenth Series (1933) Packard that still has its hand crank. I've been told that Packard discontinued providing hand cranks with the end of Tenth Series production. And yes, it is a bear of an engine to crank by hand; makes you appreciate all the hard work those starter motors do.

Posted on: 2016/4/16 20:23
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Re: Any Packs every have both key ignition and hand-crank starters?
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As usual, thanks to all the informative responses. I can only imagine having to hand-crank a cold straight-eight engine.

I have heard that the crank could swing or kick back, often breaking the arm of the guy (or woman) doing the cranking.

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Posted on: 2016/4/16 20:32
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Re: Any Packs every have both key ignition and hand-crank starters?
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My '34 Eight has a hand crank with the tool kit under the front seat. I believe cranks were supplied thru 1936, not sure about after that but the parts book will establish the date when the hand crank ceased being a standard part of the tool kit. I use it occasionally to get the engine to the timing mark to rough-set the ignition timing. Never used it to actually start the engine, with a dead battery it's easier to just give it a push and pop the clutch.

EDIT: checking the part listings, 1934 was the last year the crank was part of the standard domestic tool kit.

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