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Hay just wondering what type of tranny fluids ok to use all we got in house is coastal dexron-III mercon premium?
Posted on: 2009/5/4 18:33
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B&M TrickShift is the best I've found for Ultramatics.
Posted on: 2009/5/4 19:04
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Type F works fine for me. If I were having problems with my first generation Ultramatic, I might try B&M TrickShift but it's kinda pricey by comparison.
Posted on: 2009/5/4 22:43
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As already stated, Dexron has a friction modifier (creates slip) that is of no use to Ultramatic. Type A is straight mineral oil (10w) and is still available. Type F contains detergents plus ZDDP which (according to one patent I was looking at) can corrode copper alloys (great news for the Packard 12) under certain conditions involving heat when not balanced by a neutralizing additive. So if the Borg Warner Simpson transmission does not contain any bronze parts that may be a warning sign.
However, with Type A you need to pay close attention to the maintenance schedule.
Posted on: 2009/5/11 20:02
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I second Eric's recommendation of B&M Trick Shift, especially if you're experiencing any direct drive clutch slippage. The dinosaur juice, not the synthetic. There are two types you know.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 1:20
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No, I didn't know there were 2 types, how do you tell the dinasour juice from the synthetic? Labels different?
Posted on: 2009/5/12 8:33
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I thought type A fluid also had some component of whale oil and when because of restrictions, that became NLA it caused the shift to more modern formulations starting in 60's.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 9:11
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HH56. I'm glad u brought up the whale oil. Whale oil is what i assumed the Green Hornet meant by "Dragon Juice". Whale oil content is exactly what i was advised of during the early 70's. But i think by that time the whale oil had already been eliminated. According to at least 3 Chev Engineers, the whale oil was eleminated due to cost.
I've found that the Dexron II,III or IV or Dexron-Mercon works best in my 56 T'Ultra. The direct drive clutch groan occurs only on very rare occasions, usually when cold but even then rare.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 9:27
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VAPOR LOCK demystified: See paragraph SEVEN of PMCC documentaion as listed in post #11 of the following thread:f
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PV8 Thanks for confirming the memory re whale oil. I didn't recall Type A as being only straight mineral oil. There was another product that might have been mineral oil. Believe I read Hudsonite, the fluid used in their cork clutch setup, might have been--but can't recall if that is fact or speculation.
Posted on: 2009/5/12 9:43
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