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Re: Salado 2009
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i was wondering about those things...i thought maybe that was what it was for. cool

Posted on: 2009/3/30 11:45
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Re: Salado 2009
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Profuse thanks to all who posted pictures of those lovely Packards. I sincerely hope that after viewing them, we can get a few more converts to "true restoration" and/or preservation of correct authentic original details.

Some will say that correct-to-original details doesn't result in a car that's driveable, but I saw a very impressive collection over the weekend, and will post some pictures if you want them. Four of the cars are over 100 years old and are driven (granted, with some considerable limits). One, a 1914 Model 48 (the mid-size) Pierce Arrow, has been driven from Portland ME to Portland OR, from Galveston to Bar Harbor, from Williamsburg VA to Vancouver, Canada, and circumnavigated Ireland. The oldest car was a 1898 Panhard, then a 1901 Packard Model C (the 6th oldest Packard survivor) which completed the London-Brighton run (about 60 miles). Considering an engine with an "open" crankcase this was quite a feat. (This Packard is well-traveled, there are pictures of it on this site, it's been to Warren in 1999, to Pebble, on the cover of AACA, etc. I took a close-up of the automatic spark advance mechanism, the cover page of the patent for which is also on this website somewhere).

Also included in the collection was a 1903 2-cylinder Arrow (made by the George N. Pierce Co. before the company changed its name to Pierce Arrow), engine by DeDion-Bouton and the 2nd or 3rd oldest Pierce Arrow in existence. Also a 1907 Pierce Arrow.

Certainly the restoration of these cars is well-beyond the means of almost all but the very fortunate; the 1901 Packard still had it's original body, but for the Pierces which had cast aluminum bodies, patterns had to be made and body panels cast and finished. And the number of small parts that had to be made from scratch certainly numbered in the hundreds, maybe thousands. Brings a new perspective to the word "restoration", doesn't it?

Posted on: 2009/3/30 13:32
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Re: Salado 2009
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Here are 16 photos of the 1940 Darrin Convertible Sedan. According to the owner the only un-modified body panel is the trunk lid, and that came from a coupe. The rear fenders were lengthened 9 inches using 2 rear fenders to make-up each one. The doors are totally new, note the wood structure and turnbuckles. The dash/firewall is a cast aluminum affair in 3 pieces (top, and 2 sides). The hood has been lengthened. The windshield frame, when installed, is also a special cast piece. The body is about 4 inches narrower than stock. The running board have been removed. The outside door handles are also special pieces. Hopefully you will be able to read the engineering drawing photos. Can't wait to see it finished at next year's meet.

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Posted on: 2009/3/30 13:36
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Re: Salado 2009
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Well, something did not happen. I'll try to post the photos again. Enjoy

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Posted on: 2009/3/30 13:42
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Re: Salado 2009
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Unfortunately, I didn't get all the photos of the Darrin that I wished I had, but it looks like you guys made up for it. JW, I was also admiring the engineering drawings...it was eye-opening to see those there. And to Owen's comment: seeing these beautiful Packards up close made a believer out of me that authenticity should be the goal of restoration. Thanks again to all those who put this event together; my wife and I had a great time.

Posted on: 2009/3/31 7:59
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