Re: 1956 Packard 400 Front End Rebuild
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Do you mean the cylinder
Control valve is a pain to get out
Posted on: 2023/4/22 21:03
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Riki
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Re: 1956 Packard 400 Front End Rebuild
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The 400 should have power steering. Are you checking for play with the engine off? If so, there will be movement in the control valve if the car has a Bendix power steering system or in the combination valve and power cylinder if a Monroe system. Play with engine off is the slight side to side valve movement and should disappear with everything tightening up once there is hydraulic pressure.
If the play is at the idler end attachment on the right frame rail or at the the power cylinder mounting on the left frame rail or at any place power cylinder or linkages attach together then that would be cause for investigating exactly what is happening.
Posted on: 2023/4/22 21:51
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Howard
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Re: 1956 Packard 400 Front End Rebuild
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I would NOT start taking things apart without determining exactly what is wrong. Any steering box adjustments should be made with a service manual at hand. Also, be sure that correct replacement parts are available for any replacements that may be necessary.
Most all steering systems will have play at the steering wheel unless the front wheels are pointed straight ahead. Check play on a power steering system with the engine running and the front wheels straight ahead. May cars have a flexible coupling in the steering shaft. These couplings often develop play. Most steering shaft couplings are located between the firewall and the steering box.
Posted on: 2023/4/23 6:50
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As noted above there is a lot of play when the engine is off as the control valve is not pressurized.
On those cars the kinpins and trunnions are not especially wear prone, you can check all that easily by jacking the lower control arms as close to their outer end as possible to take the stress off the joints. At age 66 you are almost certain to need upper inner bushings and the lower inners will likely need replacing, though they do last much longer than the uppers. There are modern replacements noted in the interchange chart on site here.
Posted on: 2023/4/23 7:03
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Thanks for the reply. While underneath the car with the engine off, I had someone move the steering wheel from side to side. I was able to see the steering stabilizer move and it looked like the bushing for it was loose. Also, while going down the road, you have to pretty much constantly move the steering wheel quite while driving, more than you should it seems.
Posted on: 2023/4/23 15:27
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Hello, what are some ways to identify whether I have a Bendix or Monroe system? Thank you!
Posted on: 2023/4/23 15:29
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Re: 1956 Packard 400 Front End Rebuild
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Just two long hydraulic hoses = Monroe.
Two long and two short (underneath) hoses = Bendix.
Posted on: 2023/4/23 15:35
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Re: 1956 Packard 400 Front End Rebuild
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Here are pages from the parts manual showing the systems. Bendix has a control valve and power cylinder so two separate components, Monroe is a single integrated unit.
Bendix System Monroe System
Posted on: 2023/4/23 15:55
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Howard
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