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JD in KC wrote[ 2011/12/20]:FWIW, I have the front clip currently off of my '41 180 (in pieces) and that part does not look familiar.


Dave, a couple of months later all [edit:] Packard's including non-Clipper's featured the new horizontal air inlets. I think shortly thereafter came the new Clippers with wrap-around trim but low quantity. Everything went quickly:

1. quotation [the car lounge]:

"Car production, or car production for civilians, ended on February 2nd, 1942 - less than two months after Pearl Harbor. From January 1st Chrome trim had been banned, so most cars produced in this hazy month had trim that was chrome but was painted over in a light color. Many of the last cars were going to be sent into military service as staff cars anyway so it didn't matter, staff cars were all resprayed into olive drab, camo, or grey depending on the service.
The 1942 model year, though shortened, had actually begun in September of 1941 and there were a slew of new designs for 1942 - most of which would not be seen in large numbers until after the war."


2. quotation [LeMay museum]:

"Packard introduced its 1942 cars on August 25, 1941, and shut down its automobile production lines at the Detroit East Grand Boulevard plant just a couple months after Pearl Harbor, on February 9, 1942."

The pattern for the ZIS must have been one of the last prewar Packards.

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Posted on: 2011/12/20 19:53
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Speaking of which, this was just sent to me tonight:

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Posted on: 2011/12/20 22:27
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1930 Packard Speedster Eight Runabout (boattail)
1940 Packard 1808 w/Factory Air
1947 Chrysler Town and Country sedan
1970 Camaro RS

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Has any of you ever seen a Packard One-Eighty with wrap-around chrome trim at first hand, in a picture or an option list?

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Posted on: 2011/12/20 22:44
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West, thanks for sharing. This armored 115 is on display as a loan to the Technikmuseum Sinsheim. In January I am invited to survey the car.

Posted on: 2011/12/20 22:48
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Guscha wrote:
Has any of you ever seen a Packard One-Eighty with wrap-around chrome trim at first hand, in a picture or an option list?

Yes. Doesn't look anything like what's on the Zis, though. It was only done on the Clipper model, like the one in your original post.

Posted on: 2011/12/20 23:00
West Peterson
1930 Packard Speedster Eight Runabout (boattail)
1940 Packard 1808 w/Factory Air
1947 Chrysler Town and Country sedan
1970 Camaro RS

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West, thanks for your help. It took me a day to understand my mistake. Here comes the second attempt: Has any of you ever seen a conventional tombstone Packard with wrap-around chrome trim? The talk is of non-clipperized bodies though some of them shared the Clipper model names.

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Posted on: 2011/12/21 19:30
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Then... No. I've never seen one with wraparound trim. We've owned five or six '42 Packards, and have been aware of many, many more. Never have seen the wraparound trim except on our '42 Clipper.

Posted on: 2011/12/21 19:42
West Peterson
1930 Packard Speedster Eight Runabout (boattail)
1940 Packard 1808 w/Factory Air
1947 Chrysler Town and Country sedan
1970 Camaro RS

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No, I agree with West. All the '42 non-Clipper side grills that I have seen ended before wrapping around the fender.

Posted on: 2011/12/21 20:05
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West and Dave, thank you for taking the time and throwing light upon.

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Only Clipper? Well, exceptions prove the rule.



[picture source: ebay, item number: 350454272848]

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Posted on: 2012/1/13 7:30
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