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Re: Wade's Workshop
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when I was younger we dumped all our used aircraft oil into 55 gal drums, then donated it to the local golf course. they would use the oil to treat piles of sand which were used for the sand greens, back before they got all hoity-toity and grew grass ones.
sometimes while golfing I'd find little bits of safety wire and know that our oil had been used for that putting surface, we didn't always remember to strain those out...
Posted on: 2016/9/15 14:12
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Friday 16th September 2016
Hmmmmm......things have stalled as far as the Coupes Rally trip preparations go. Rang Supercheap this morning, the Transoil 140 hasn't been delivered yet, so they'll call me when it comes in. Then, thinking I've pushed my luck far enough because I don't carry a spare fan belt, thought I'd better pick up a spare and went to Repco(another Auto parts store) to source one. I was pretty sure Supercheap wouldn't have one, because all the ones they have on display are flat modern belts. Didn't expect Repco to have one either, and they didn't, but they ordered one in for me which is expected early next week. My current belt is a DAYCO #24490 and 1245mm in length. As adjustment on the belt is already at the limit of the tensioning arm on the generator was thinking maybe of getting the next smaller sized belt which Repco told me is 1210mm in length. Then learned that the belt going to be ordered is a Gates TR24562 which is 1240mm long,(EDIT - After picking up the belt learnt it was 1438mm!!) long so will go with the slightly shorter length of that. I had a look in the Parts X-Ref and there's only one entry for a fan belt so once my Gates belt arrives and it checks out I'll add it and the DAYCO there. Note, if anyone's interested, while in the X-Ref saw there's a 6 blade 17" flex fan listed as fitting a '38 Six. To be continued....... EDIT - Thanks for all the oil disposal stories, it was another time altogether, and to which I'll add mine. Back in the mid '60's my brother and I bought a '28 Ford Model A Tudor Sedan(first car). The local authority had a 3' diameter stormwater pipe running under our parents property, but close to the surface, and it had about a 4->6" hole broken into the top of it at one point. So, to change the oil on the Model A, positioned the drain plug of the sump over the aforementioned hole and let the old oil run free. Never had to worry about collecting it in containers or otherwise disposing of it. Knowing what we know now wouldn't do the same today. Instead there are plenty of recycling options including Supercheap who have an oil disposal bin in front of the store.
Posted on: 2016/9/15 20:12
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Good to know on the fan blade.... forgot about that x-ref. Thanks for the reminder!
Posted on: 2016/9/15 22:56
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1937 Packard 138-CD Deluxe Touring Limousine
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Wednesday 21st September, 2016
Yesterday picked up the Transoil 140, as well as the fan belt. But the belt was the wrong one! Last week when the guy at Repco ordered it he assured me it was 1240mm long, but it wasn't! It was 1438mm long or about 8" too long. All worked out in the end with the lady who served me today arranging a refund and also ordering the correct belt. Hopefully it'll be there early tomorrow morning, cause about mid morning I set off on the trip to Adelaide. Now that I had the Transoil, drained the transmission and refilled it with nice new stuff, The old stuff, although still sticky, was black. Did the same for the OD. To facilitate the refilling, while at Repco bought a little 1 litre oil hand pump. Checking the book it's 2 pints for the trans and 1.25 pints for the OD. On to the internet and learned that 2 pints = 0.95 litres and 1.25pints = 0.6 litres. Although facilitating the refilling process, also learned the each stroke of the pump only pushes through 4ml of oil(it's thick), meaning the trans took about 240 pumps and the OD about 150 pumps. And, lying under the car, it was hard work, had to take a breather about every 25 pumps = 100ml ![]() Now as ready as I'll ever be for the trip! ![]()
Posted on: 2016/9/21 1:24
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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I remember those days. In 50s-60s New Mexico there was a cheap off brand oil sold by some of the way less than name brand gas stations that were a moneyless teenagers best friends. At 5 or 10 cents a quart it was probably used oil that maybe saw a strainer before it went into a can. Even so, it is amazing how well the Packard would tolerate it. I don't think the 51 model I drove thru high school ever saw any good stuff & don't recall ever putting anything in the Ultra. If I did am sure it would have been a low cost version there too. Still marvel at how I mistreated that car yet I can't recall it ever complaining or made me walk.
Posted on: 2016/9/21 9:41
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I recall using 2-gallons of "reclaimed" oil in a trip from Connecticut to New Mexico in a very nice, but oil burning, 40 Ford Coupe. We were on a budget. Heading home to answer a Selective Service request to report for a pre-draft physical.
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Posted on: 2016/9/30 17:08
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Friday 30th December, 2016
Oh woe is me! Sorry, it should be woe is my Packard ![]() On Wednesday drove the Coupe to Sydney, about 65 miles, to leave it with John at the workshop for it's annual mechanical/safety check for registration purposes while I carried on into the city to donate Plasma. All fine but on the return trip a little stutter about 3/4 of the way home which "cleared" by backing of the throttle for a second or two and then it was good to go. Note, similar episodes last time I returned from Sydney on about 4 or 5 occasions on that trip home. Both trips were on hot days and I put it down to the dreaded vapour(vapor) lock! However, before reaching home pulled into Bunnings, the local big box hardware store and just after leaving there the Coupe died before I could pull onto the Old Hume Highway. Still thinking it was vapour(vapor) lock tried restarting after a dose of "Start Ya Bastard" down the throat of the carburettor(carburetor). Coupe started but only ran for a second or so before dying again. Repeated this a number of times then noticed there was NO fuel in the inline fuel filter just before the carburettor(carburetor). Now thinking that, in addition to vapour(vapor) lock, there was a fuel delivery/supply problem. Had plenty of fuel having refilled with 60 litres of 91 Unleaded(ethanol free) before leaving Sydney for the trip home. Maybe the fuel pump diaphragm had split? But there didn't appear to be any fuel in the oil according to the dipstick. So using a 5 litre fuel tank spout and part of an old t-shirt to form a reasonably air tight seal for the fuel filler tube blew some fuel through to the filter. But.......the fuel that came through looked like the kind of liquid in a mud puddle. So pulled the fuel filter, the throw away type of course, so couldn't clean it as such and drained the muddy concoction. Repeated this a number of times and eventually the fuel that came through looked fairly clear. Still no start though after again priming with Start Ya Bastard. All that exhausted my limited diagnostic and repair skills so turned to the NRMA, our local road service organisation who sent a tilt tray tow truck for an inglorious 10km trip home. Should have had some pic's of the Coupe broken down and on the back of the tilt tray tow truck but I lost the camera I used. Think it might have slipped down behind the seat of the tow truck but I couldn't see it there. Arriving home the tow truck driver couldn't reverse to deposit the Coupe in the carport because it's a sharp turn to do so and the length of the truck mitigated against being able to do that. Instead the Coupe is now in residence on the loose pebbled driveway facing the street. It does have a cover over it but that's more against wandering eyes than for weather events. After all, while on the National Rally it survived the worst storm in 50 years which blacked out the entire state of South Australia, a little rain shouldn't bother it too much. However that doesn't make for a great working environment coupled with a 70 year old body which is growing stiffer by the day. However that being the hand I was dealt it meant it was the hand I had to play with. First thing was to jack up the rear, jack stands under, and drain the tank of fuel. Of course the fuel tank drain plug wouldn't turn and, not wanting to risk a disaster, decided to siphon the contents. Didn't have a long enough piece of plastic tubing so off to the local hardware store for a 2m length. Plenty of length but it wouldn't go into the tank, it was too pliable, stopping and catching when it met the filler tube where it joins the tank body. Should have thought of this sooner, would have saved me a pointless trip, and shortened the garden hose to provide a length for the procedure. Worked well except for lungfuls of richly gasolined air on a number of occasions when the tank end of the hose wasn't immersed below the surface. I've found a glass of milk is a great remedy for this, or for a mouthful of fuel if you aren't quite quick enough between sucking the hose and dumping the resultant torrent(it's always a torrent, never a dribble) into the container you're collecting the fuel in. Took three siphonings, because I only had a number of small containers to collect the fuel in. And what to do with what was probably contaminated fuel? Why give that part of the garden, overrun by aggressive ground cover that I been meaning to pull out, a drink. Tank virtually empty so undid tank straps and disconnected the fuel line, the fuel gauge wire and the extra ground wire Wade had installed to the frame. That was the easy part, now to get the tank out. I know it should come out, it did before back in 2008, but will it in 2016? At the moment it's resisting valiantly, maybe if I loosen the exhaust and tail pipes and muffler there might be a little more room to work with. Anyone done this recently on a '41 and if you did was it successful and are there any tricks/tips you could pass on? That was yesterday, today went to the other end of the fuel delivery system, the fuel pump. I haven't forgotten the carburettor(carburetor), it will be sent to Carburettor Service Company at Burwood. CSC rebuilt the carb back in 2008 and with the possibility of it now being contaminanted a good going over under their expert hands is in order. But, back to the fuel pump. Jacked the front of the Coupe up, installed jack stands, and removed the right front wheel/tyre(tire). Then removed the front right inner fender panel and the fuel pump heat shield to gain direct access to the fuel pump. After removing the fuel pump took the bell chamber off the bottom of it and found foreign particles in there. The particles are brown in colour(color), but are not rust. Also removed the brass "shield", with its underside approximating the muddy water colour(color) of the fuel in the fuel filter. Will be seeing Wade next week with fuel pump so he look, disassemble, clean and if need be rebuild it. Also have some feelers out for a rebuilt '41 120 fuel pump which I've seen around the traps. While the Coupe is immobilised I'll also take the opportunity to remove the intake/exhaust manifolds to fix a blown gasket. This time I won't use any sealer as the stuff applied previously lasted less than 4,000 miles.
Posted on: 2016/12/30 2:44
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Mal
/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Mal, I hear you on making our more ancient bodies bend and get into positions they would rather not. Mine plain refuses or revolts when I force it and particularly when getting under a car. I've been told my performance of crawling across the floor trying to find something to grab onto so I can hoist myself back up is worthy of an admission charge.. At least you have some nice dry gravel to work in. My pickup is parked near where you saw the 47 and sitting in the only low spot in the concrete. It has rained just enough that the spot fills with water and doesn't dry out before the next storm hits. My tank removal for a fuel pump replacement is going on its second month now.
That coffee ground like stuff crops up over here too and no idea what it is. It completely filled the bowl and screen in a fuel pump I had taken off a long sitting car. The pump still had some fuel in the bowl so the stuff was soft -- more like tea leaves -- and didn't appear to be rust but could have been. Had thought it might have been some tank slosh compound that was incompatible or had deteriorated but looking inside the tank that didn't seem to be the case. Could not see the top of tank so perhaps condensation had covered the top metal and allowed the surface to rust until flakes were falling down. IIRC, Big Kev had something like that happen on his fuel tank. To rule out the possibility of it happening again I would add a fairly large yet easy to reach filter just before the pump or somewhere in the line near the tank. Use one of the transparent body inline types where the mesh element is visible and separately cleanable and serviced. If it were placed in an accessible part of the line where you could avoid crawling under or standing on your head for too long you could look and tell in an instant if something was coming thru from the tank and then clean that instead of needing to take the pump apart.
Posted on: 2016/12/30 11:11
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Mal, a bit of bad luck, but you and the Packard got home without any harm to either. All my Packards came home on a tilt bed transporter. Is it possible you got some bad fuel? The photos show some interesting shapes, not the usual fine grained rust. Interested in what you find the problem to be.
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Posted on: 2016/12/30 12:22
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