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Yes, the welds, and the replacement of a rivet with a screw. These tools are subjected to quite a bit of stress when in use. You don't want one to 'let go' while your fingers are busy extracting spring retainers.

The other two appear to be much earlier designs. I suppose they would work.

Well, if I get it for next to nothing, I'll just check it out and redo the welds if need be. If the bid goes up too much, I'll pass and wait for another.

So I got my new (to me) valve spring compressor that was designed for these kind of motors and now I need to know what is the best way to get these valves out? I put corks in the drain holes (even the 2 small hidden ones) started with a valve that IS NOT stuck, compressed the valve spring, took out both halfs of the keeper, let the pressure off the spring, then I used the starter to bump it up so I can get my fingers under it, and that sucker is in there good! I am used to the SBC's where you just remove the valve spring and tap the valves out gently if needed. On this motor I can't get the spring out of the way UNTIL I get the valve out. I do not want to pry against the seat and can not tap it from the bottom in this application. So what is the long forgotten trick here fellas? Thanks!

Perhaps you could fabricate something with some flat iron along the lines of the tool they used. Slotted pieces below the head and another piece on top connected to a slide hammer or something to pull against. Bolt the pieces of metal together thru a spacer or some washers the thickness of the valve.

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Well you are the man sir! If fleabay does not have one...and I mean ending soon, I will break out the old welder and engineering hat. Thanks!!!

Soak everything in penetrating oil and let sit. Next use the valve spring compressor to expose the stem so that you can clean off any burrs with a fine file or emery paper.

You can use spacers on top of the tappets. Once the valve is high enough you can remove the spring given the tappet is wound down. Or just keep feeding in more spacers.

The Senior motors originally had screw slots in the valve so that a drill could be used to burnish the stem prior to removal and thus prevent valve guide damage.

This is time consuming. But if you use that slide hammer thing then send the valves to a machine shop for grinding.

Also, a telescoping magnet and a screw driver will get the keepers out without using your fingers.

"But if you use that slide hammer thing then send the valves to a machine shop for grinding."

Tim, I was concerned about that too when looking at the pic of that tool, I am going to melt several ounces of lead (carefully, I hear cancer sucks!)on to the part of my tool that will come in to contact with the underside of the valve to try and prevent this from happening. I have beat on 24 GOLD plated rims before with a lead hammer (knockoffs on my friends low rider) and it was fine, so I hope it will work. I Might just loose my cool, hulk up and rip the bastards out with my engine hoist and cut a check for new valves and guides. I think that I am going to try and talk nice to it first tho.

Easy does it, you don't want to break off a valve head.

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I just removed a set of stuck valves from a 327. My first step was to soak the valves and guides with PT Blaster. After they set for 8 hours of so, I tapped the head of the valves with a ball peen hammer (gently). I then uses small wedges between the valve stem and the lifter. All stuck intake valves came out fine. Just got them all cleaned, surfaced, and reinstalled today.

Well I am glad your stuck valves are playing nice, I might have a parts 49 for ya soon! lol I set out to make a slide hammer valve puller but was worried about the metal to metal contact with my valves that Tim warned about, so I am building one that has 2 loops of very strong woven cargo strap on the bottom that are crossed over each other so that when they are under the valve and you pull, it tightens down using the "Chinese finger trap" principle. A little more welding and I will be done! Hell, it MIGHT even work! We will see soon, I will post pics and results in a couple of hours either way.