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I think Fred would look good in a V-12....
Posted on: 2022/3/30 8:00
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Pre-war & wood not my tea, worth the peek.
I was more impressed with those sturdy storage racks. Not your big box or chinese take out variety. Easier to take apart and "store" than move, fix, and put back together*. They should pay U to cart it all off and still get buyer's remorse. One of the vagaries of the sport. People hoard or sit on stuff and never do anything with it and it does not appreciate that way. ie, wants vs needs. * - I still got a box of used parts I took off scrappers, that have no use and I've been carting them around for 50 years... Motivating to get the '49 moving again. The Caddie work keeps getting in the way. I need to get back to one. I want both?
Posted on: 2022/3/30 9:12
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I'll throw in my 2 cents being in the midst of a similar situation. Good luck finding one buyer. Most hopeful scenario is to segregate into several lots, two town cars with all necessary parts, conv. Sedan same, 38 same, and
then segregate a few lots of other parts AND AND AND be capable of crating those parts for potential freight shipment. Without this effort, its going to be an ....ummm...disappointment. By the way, I have another/similar V12 "deal" available, 38 Brunn and a partially disassembled 39 sedan with it. West Coast. Got a big trailer with a winch?
Posted on: 2022/3/30 9:17
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kevinpackard:
Re your interest in how the rear of the roof especially around the window was fabricated from wood, here's a photo of a Rollston Duesenberg owned by Richie Fass at the time (Stone Barn restorations, Vienna NJ) showing a similar method of construction.
Posted on: 2022/3/30 9:21
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I wonder how far along that car is? He's had it for so long. I recall people of lesser character telling me it was a fake and just a VIN plate. One of the reasons I like to stay home.
Posted on: 2022/3/30 10:52
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Unbelievable what so many collectors do to their cars and how they overwhelm themselves with multiple insurmountable projects!
Reading on the AACA Forum, just a thorough rebuild of a Twelve engine runs $50K-60K currently. To that, add for restoration of all other aspects of each car another $250K-300K. Grand total of between $2M-$3M would be the bill to return these Packard to the road in factory condition. What a shame, that is highly unlike to ever happen. Yes, these cars were saved from the scrapper but to no good end. Steve
Posted on: 2022/3/31 11:31
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.....epigram time.....
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If you think that situation is bad, I knew someone who bought 35 Packard Eight town car with less than 8,000 miles on it. All you had to do was dust it off because it lived in a heated garage in Manhattan.
He also had a 35 low mileage Eight convertible victoria. Oh, but he wanted a Twelve so he cut up the town car for the chassis. He cut up the Victoria for the body. Everything else was scrapped. What he ended up with was a piece of junk because it had town car rear springing and Packard Eight front springing. It drove like garbage, but it ran great because I did the tuning. I saw a magazine clip where they stated - "It starts instantly hot or cold." Things like that are why Turnquist cried the blues about town cars being cut up in his book. Once upon a time there were a lot of 25-32 Packard town cars. Almost all gone now. Duesenberg town cars have faired a lot better. That supercharged town car above with the raked windshield is Rollston at their finest. Put the picture below on a Supercharged Duesenberg chassis and you have it. Attach file: 1934 Packard Twelve All-Weather Town Car with custom coachwork by Rollston.jpg (132.51 KB)
Posted on: 2022/3/31 16:10
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I'm surprised to read all the pessimism!
Those two LeBarons look sad, but all it takes is someone with a dream, lots of patience, time, energy, and elbow grease...and, yes, a few bucks. You pick up one piece at a time, look at it and say, "I can fix this!" You do it 500 times and then you find the right bolts to put parts together. Eventually you will have a very functional Packard that you can enjoy driving down a country lane...smug as heck at having fulfilled your dream. Not all people are into the judging scene. Some folk are just happy to enjoy saving a rare Packard. I've been down that road but now too old to tackle another project. The LeBarons are extremely rare cars and deserve to be saved.
Posted on: 2022/3/31 23:49
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What I was told: The owner has had a bad stroke. Son is selling. The 1936 All-Weather cabriolet was purchased as a complete car. It is the one that was being restored. Engine done, but not completely put together (heads still off). The other three cars were apparently purchased in "already torn apart" condition. Perhaps as parts cars.
Individual prices on the cars: 1935 convertible sedan - $39k 1936 all weather cab $59k 1937 all weather cab -$35k 1938 club sedan- $8500 Extra parts shelves are separate.
Posted on: 2022/4/1 9:51
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1930 Packard Speedster Eight boattail (SOLD) 1940 Packard 1808 w/Factory Air (SOLD) 1947 Chrysler Town and Country sedan 1970 Camaro RS 1936 Cord phaeton packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4307&forum=10 aaca.org/ |
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