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1940 110 with a eight?
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Just acquired a 1940 110. The vehicle number identifies it as a 1382 which seems consistent with the body. However, the number on the block is C63706H. Well, C63706 comes up as a six cylinder, but the engine is quite obviously an eight. Is there some way to figure out what the engine actually is? (It’s also got an overdrive hooked to it). The car was partially disassembled over 40 years ago and has been settling in the corner of a garage since.

Posted on: 9/26 21:01
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G'day 1940 110,
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That is a strange one, could the Eight # have been renumbered to that of the Six # it replaced?

Putting aside the conumdrum of the engine number, I invite you to include your erstwhile '40 110 and the 1938-40 Henney Ambulance, referenced in your profile, in PackardInfo's Packard Vehicle Registry

Posted on: 9/26 22:27
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How does it fit? The 110 has a shorter hood. Have you measured the wheelbase?

Posted on: 9/27 9:33
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Any pictures? That may help.

That serial number is indeed a Six motor.

I would imagine an eight would be just cramped in there and require firewall/radiator placement modifications in the a shorter engine bay of a six.

Posted on: 9/27 10:45
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An eight would never fit a 110 chassis which I know from experience, having bought a 1940 110 in which someone tried to put a 120 engine. The front of the engine was resting where the radiator needed to be. If your car is indeed a 110 but has the wrong engine, I do have a proper one for it at my Oregon shop.

Posted on: 9/27 10:54
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Let me try again. Previous reply seems to have disappeared.
Measured the wheelbase at about 120.
So, thinking sometime in the late seventies somebody started to put a 110 on a 120 chassis and either lost interest or ran into some issues they couldn’t resolve. The guy I bought it from had never done anything with it, just couldn’t stand seeing the car go for scrap.
The engine looks good like it might have been rebuilt. I’m just wondering what it really is. It’s got what looks like a build date cast into the right side of the block. 4 11 40 with a number under that 341800. I’ll send a couple pictures in my next post.

Posted on: 9/27 18:03
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On the standard wheelbase cars, the bodies are the same between 110 and 120 with the difference being in the length of the chassis in front of the cowl so the 1382 and 1392 bodies are identical. As for the engine casting numbers, they'll probably not tell you much unless they coincide with part numbers and that does not always happen. The stamped engine number is more or less definitive and if it's an eight cylinder that is there in the photo you posted, then it is a 120 chassis due to the fact that the front motor mount is attached. The 110 would be on the 122" wheelbase while the 120 would be 127" and the hood standing there also looks to be a non-110 type. Whatever the body number, the rest is not 110 so, as you said, maybe someone switched bodies.

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Apparently it was a common practice to stamp the existing engine number into the replacement engine. The number on the engine, (C63706H) references a six, (if you leave off the H). I’m just wondering if there might be a way to recover that original engine number.
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Posted on: 9/27 19:10
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Uh, dude, that is a six unless there are more spark plugs hiding somewhere.

Posted on: 9/27 19:37
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