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Hello! I'm looking to switch out my brake pedal cover. My current cover has holes for a brake and a clutch. Obviously with just the brake to deal with, I don't need that second opening. I know I could just self tap a little piece over the hole, but I'd rather just install the correct pedal cover.

The parts book does seem to differentiate the cover assemblies in group 3.1125. The cover that I have is in the photos, and I'm guessing its part number is 573153. The cover assembly I'm looking for is 421272, which I would guess is only different from the perspective of not having an opening for a clutch.

So, does anyone out there have a parts car with this cover still in place? Held in with four self-tapping screws, and it slips off with the brake pedal removed.

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Thanks for posting the group number because I tried to figure it out the past and got it wrong.

I did not think to look in the manual transmission section. I feel like it should be either in the body or brakes sections. 🤔

Hey all - wanted to revive this. I was going to resort to covering up the clutch hole with a rubber sheet. I ordered a new boot for the brake pedal to get that opening to seal and found that someone has enlarged the hole for the brake pedal. The larger opening makes it so the new boot will not stay retained in the cover plate when the brake pedal return to its neutral position. Ultramatic or otherwise, would love to track down a new pedal cover assembly for my 2302 ('50 Super Deluxe Eight).

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You can probably get another cover easily enough. Try Max Merritt or even Packards Southwest.

The boot is not retained in the cover plate. It slips over the shank of the pedal, large side up, and all the way down to the corner of the shank. It smacks up against the back of your plate when the pedal is released.

What Ross said. It is made that way to prevent any chance of pedal binding.

Here is exactly what he is referring to:

Oh geeze. Well don't I feel silly. That's initially how I interpreted the diagram. Alright, no worries then.

If I could ask another dumb question, but was the pedal cover otherwise sealed to prevent moisture intrusion?

Thanks for the help on this.

Somewhere here there is a somewhat recent thread about the fiber pedal seal that goes between the carpet and the Floor pan. Nearly every car is missing these.

Here is a photo off my Deluxe. It's a manual brake car so no one had ever removed the plate before I did to service the steering column. The seal is indicated with the arrow. Measure from the center of the screw hole to the edge; the width is nearly double that, centered on the screw hole.

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As far as sealing the entire toe plate to the floorboard, most of the plates I've seen use a strip of the asphalt impregnated felt or paper like material around the edges that gets pressed to the floorboard to form a seal when the screws are tightened. Strip is about 1/16" or maybe a slight bit thicker and runs around 1/2 to 3/4" wide. It can be either on the plate or on the floorboard. That strip acts as a water/air seal as well as an anti vibration or anti squeak barrier. There is often a thin layer of that same material covering the entire inside of plate which is used as a heat and noise insulator.

Around the steering column they used various sealing methods depending on model Some have a flat molded rubber collar that screws to the firewall or plate and often fits over the carpet or mat as a finish. In some models there is the rubber collar plus a length of thick felt which was wrapped around the column and wedged to fill the gap between the firewall and toe plate and column. There is often a fiber piece on the engine side to help retain the felt. Other models only used the felt strip wrapped around the column and a retaining plate on both sides. They relied on thick carpet closely fitted around the column instead of the collar as the decorative finish.

As far as the plate openings, the rubber bellows like seal on the pedal arms is the only thing for the brake and clutch holes. If in good condition those keep out air and water as long as the pedal is up but when pedal is pressed, the only thing preventing air entry is the tightness of the carpet or mat around the pedal arm. No idea what the quality of the repro seal pieces might be today but it seemed to me the thin rubber that formed the bellows portion had a fairly short life. It cracked and all too soon the thicker upper flange that sealed against the plate fell away and would no longer touch the plate.

The accelerator rod, while not going thru the plate, has the thin round fiber piece Kev mentions. It fits next to the metal under the carpet or mat which holds it down to block air entry. Most cars also had a thin rubber bellows covering the exposed length of the rod between the accelerator pedal and carpet or mat which provided a bit more of a seal. If any of those pieces are damaged or missing then air and fumes from the engine compt can get thru the openings and into the passenger compt. Not sure much of anything would stop a heavy spray of water.