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Hello, My grandmother owns a 1925 Packard 333, seven passenger car, I have always been told it was a model 333 limo, but haven't been able to find any real info on the differences between the limo and the sedan, I have seen one for sale on a auction site that claimed to be a 26 333 limo and had the glass window divider and jump seat that don't fold into the seat, which our car does not have. Our car has no inside window and the jump seats fold into the drivers seat bench, so I am just wondering if that is the only difference between the models or if ours could still be a limo model.

Thanks
Mel

The limo has the divider, otherwise it's a sedan.

See the now-100-year-old factory brochure:packardinfo.com/xoops/html/downloads/1925_Packard-TheEightSalesBrochure.pdf

G'day Mel(Melholcik),
to PackardInfo.

I invite you, probably with your Grandmother's approval, to include the '25 633 Sedan or Limousine(whichever it may be?) in PackardInfo's Packard Vehicle Registry

Limousines always have a partition which is one of the definitions of limousine but long wheelbase sedans, if they have jump seats, are often erroneously referred to as limousines.

Yeah I'm planning to put it in the registry when I have returned home in a weeks time, one other question, the original Packard manual for it say it wants "A high grade medium gas engine cylinder oil should be used in the crankcase." the only company that I could find that has a Medium engine oil is Penrite oil out of Australia, they claim that it is the correct weight as the original versions of the oil but the new converted weight they offer is 25w-75 which seems a little thick to me, but we have been having some minor issues with low oil pressure in the past so I'm wondering if there is any other information about original oil grades converted into the new weights

Penrite's link:penriteoil.com.au/assets/pis/SHELSLEY%20ENGINE%20OILS%20-%20MAY%202017.pdf

attached is also a photo of our Car outside our shop with 3 other of our cars and 1 Steam traction engine
ps if you click on the photo it gets much clearer

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Nice looking cars, alot of history in that photo.

The 34 Super 8 manual recommended SAE 30 up to 40°C and SAE 20W up to 15°C. In 1956, Packard suggested either SAE 20 or 10W30 for the V8 cars. Then just recently, Volvo discontinued SAE 30 for some engines and suggested 10W40 as a replacement.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/volvo-penta-sae30-replacement.386942/

Therefore it sounds like 10W40 would be a good choice. It may also be noted that "medium" weight traditionally meant SAE 30 to 40. There is a guy here that swears by 20W50 in his 20's car but I don't think it needs to be that high. Once you get to hydrodynamic lubrication, additional thickness adds drag and reduces the actual amount of oil flow throughout the engine.