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Why didn't you just have the holes filled with the Rhino liner? That way it would sand better and match better.
Posted on: 2009/11/27 21:25
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Turbopackman wrote: Why didn't you just have the holes filled with the Rhino liner? That way it would sand better and match better. The Rhino liner is sprayed on, and I would think it's not easy to handle in small quantities. My earlier post explains the process involved.Quote: Ozstatman wrote: Monday 28th September 2009......the equipment uses a mechanical pump to separately force resin(also contains the colour desired) and  Quote: JD in KC wrote:........I got a quote to do my '41 running boards from the Rhino folks about 2 years ago but I put the '41 project on the back burner to work on the newly acquired '50. Looks like I need to make absolutely certain that what I envision and what they can actually produce are the same. If not, then I need to pursue other coatings. I think the Rhino can be a very good running board coating. In my correspondence with Dave Mitchell on this subject, he was kind enough to provide me with pic's of the boards of his '41, Dave Mitchell's 1905 Bohman & Schwartz Limo see pic's below, they are great! And this quote from Dave " I would have put some fresh treatment on them to make them look blacker if I had known that, but I guess it doesn't matter. They are on a long wheel base 160. I have never seen seamed mats that look anywhere close to these. I have to give credit for the idea to Terry Hoenicke who works with me. He has been restoring cars for about 45 years and is one of the best Packard men in the country." EDIT - Click on a pic to get a bigger image. Further EDIT - Dave gave me some info on the Limo and here it is in a slightly edited form. "This car was owned by the Harrah collection from 1966 until 1978 and even they didn't know who the coachbuilder was. It is a Bohman & Schwartz body, and is a one off. The tail lights are Cadillac. Bohman liked the Cad lights, which came out in 1934 and used them on a number of Duesenbergs, as well as Cad headlights. I think that the Cad tail lights are one of the best designs of the era - and one of the first with a lens that can be seen from the side when lit....... Anyway, this is a 160 1905 on the 148 wheelbase. It was junk when I bought it in 1990 and I was totally nuts to restore it, and have more in it than I can ever get out. I like unusual coachbuilt cars and I love Packards, so for me it was a car that had to be saved. Most Packard guys laughed at me (at best), but I did win my class at Pebble Beach after a 7 year restoration, as well as lots of other concours and CCCA events where we have never gotten less than a perfect score. We won best of show at the PAC nationals also. I restored this chassis completely with NOS parts starting with a crankshaft and working my way out (except for the block), so it drives like a new Packard. It has a great history - the original owner was the woman who founded the Hollywood Bowl and who had made four fortunes in her lifetime, so she could afford any car she wanted. I love the interior and the trunk with fitted cases too." Note, I did gain permission from Dave to use his words and pic's in the Blog in case anyone is concerned. Attach file:  (51.01 KB) (46.09 KB) (39.54 KB) (40.77 KB) (45.74 KB) (40.55 KB) (124.61 KB) (125.13 KB) (103.76 KB) (53.87 KB)
Posted on: 2009/11/28 1:08
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/o[]o\ ====  Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Sunday 29th November 2009
Yesterday it was Peter's Workshop, well today it's Mal's Garage. Started work on rubbing back the running boards to obtain an acceptable finish. And why aren't I out there right now? Ran out of 80 grade paper, so took the opportunity to update here, have lunch then go purchase more paper. Now I know the true meaning of 'hand finishing' having spent over 3 hours on one board, with one grade of paper and only about half way done. And there's still finer sanding required after the 80 grade cut is done and that's even before I start on the other board! Attach file: (40.69 KB) (33.84 KB) (30.37 KB) (28.91 KB) (32.76 KB) (33.01 KB) (32.22 KB) (27.72 KB) (30.15 KB) (31.42 KB) (32.71 KB) (36.59 KB) (27.65 KB) (26.93 KB)
Posted on: 2009/11/28 21:44
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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I still think a small paintbrush would have filled those holes with Rhino and would have looked a lot better than the urethane...
Posted on: 2009/11/28 21:48
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Looks like you've bitten off a big one Mal.....good luck.
Except for the running boards, my first impression of the 1941 Bohman & Schwartz Limo was of one of the ugliest cars but it is growing on me.
Posted on: 2009/11/28 23:18
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Sunday 29th November 2009
Another 3 hours on the one board with the 80 paper. The closer to the inside of the board the more orange peel there is. At the rate I'm going, instead of just losing my finger prints could go all the way to the elbow! Quote: Turbopackman wrote: I still think a small paintbrush would have filled those holes with Rhino and would have looked a lot better than the urethane... Trouble is I'm learning as I go, not a good way to do it. But hopefully others will learn from all this. Quote: Appin wrote: Looks like you've bitten off a big one Mal.....good luck. Except for the running boards, my first impression of the 1941 Bohman & Schwartz Limo was of one of the ugliest cars but it is growing on me. You're right, it's a much bigger job than I thought it would be, but what else am I going to do? As for the Bohman & Schwartz Limo, an impressive formal car in which my chauffeur would drive me to the opera while I sat in the back with top hat on, I'd suffer it! Attach file: (31.17 KB) (31.62 KB) (33.39 KB)
Posted on: 2009/11/29 1:21
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/o[]o\ ==== Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Mal,
What happens after the running boards are sanded out? Do the get re-coated, painted, or something else? I recently refurbished the running boards on my 39... I truly feel your pain. Hang in there, Jim
Posted on: 2009/11/29 10:47
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Couldnt the boards be stripped to bare metal, the extra holes either MIG\TIG welded or brazed closed, and then coated?
Posted on: 2009/11/29 20:19
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Mal,
I had the same thought as BigKev, if it was mine I would strip it and start again however I would fill the holes with soft solder. I have had good results with this method of filling unwanted holes up to about 3/16" diameter. I always lightly counter sink each side of the holes to key the solder and have never had a failure. The roof of my 1929 sedan had hundreds of holes where a non standard steel top had been screwed in place and I used this method. The benefit is that there is no distortion and I have never had a failure. If you did this and sanded all the filling back to a smooth finish I would think you would get a much better result. David
Posted on: 2009/11/30 4:40
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