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Posted on: 2012/1/4 8:50
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Transmission retrieved. Looks like this was a transmission from a '56 PB car. Aluminum cased with PB motor attached to the selector shaft. Looks like it was originally painted metallic green.
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Posted on: 2012/1/7 18:34
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Looks like it has been exposed to weather and already been opened. Hopefully bushing surfaces polish up and all is well in the converter. With luck balance marks were made before it was opened.
Too bad that green paint is missing and weathered. I'd bet it is the 56 green that none of the vendors have because no new pieces to match seem to be available.
Posted on: 2012/1/7 18:53
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The tranny and the engine were separated and stored outside under a tarp for awhile. But the convertor was left on the back of the motor cause it was stuck on there. The "T" bolts are missing from the convertor as when the convertor was stuck, the gentlemen started to disassemble the convertor it thinking that was how it was removed from the engine. But I called and stopped him before he got the two halves apart. The is a large "3" stamped into the convertor across the seam of the two halves, which I believe is factory. So it is at least together in the correct orientation.
I need to chat with Ross, but I believe I will actually need to reuse the bellhousing and convertor from my '54 GS to make this '56 Twin work with straight eight. I also have to use the pan from my '54 to keep the dipstick in the correct location.
Posted on: 2012/1/7 19:06
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That's good news on the converter. Ross has the answers but I believe the input shaft and all attached to it in the converter will be an issue in trying to interchange. I posted some pictures on someone's thread earlier of the difference but 56 has fine splines and start closer to nose of input shaft. 54-5 has wide splines and start about twice the distance from front as 56.
I wonder if 54 cranks have the large pilot opening for that style converter or how much difference there is in that area with regular ultras and gear starts.. If you can get by with just changing bellhousing, it would be nice to keep all else together for the improvements. Was it a hardtop Clipper it came off of? That is another difference between TUs. There were two converter stall speeds in 56. For some reason --maybe a sporty image -- they put the same as used on the Caribbean on the HTs so must have been the peppier of the two.
Posted on: 2012/1/7 19:36
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If you rebuild, remember my blog buddy!
Posted on: 2012/1/7 20:18
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Hey Kev, congrats on the light and tranny. You will need to use all of it excepting your bell housing and pan. The convertor will install on your crank and flywheel with no probs. I would treat it as if my worst enemy had worked on it before me. It will well repay you to go through it carefully with an eye on:
..pivot shafts for the band operating toggles ..all bushing clearances, especially the front pump ..high range clutch seal ..high range clutch disks ..hard as glass direct clutch disk ..frozen reactor clutch ..you get the idea There is a good chance you will want to shorten the low-high shift spring as I mentioned in some ancient post. This has proven so satisfactory in my Packup. That will lower the low-high shift about 5 mph and make it fit with the revving characteristics of the S8 much better. Happy to discuss all this with you in March. Was thinking of holding something like "Packard Camp" at my place for 3 days or so in May or June. Rebuild things, drive Packards at high speed on country roads, eat too much, etc. Thinking 3-4 motivated folks. Interest?
Posted on: 2012/1/7 23:38
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Ross,
Thanks for the info. So sounds like I can continue to flog the '54 GS, while I bench rebuild the '56 unit. Looks like I will start end up at least buying a gasket kit so I can pull it apart and inspect, and possible go through the entire darn thing as I don't want to have to go back in again. "'In for a penny, in for a pound"
Posted on: 2012/1/8 0:05
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THe greeen on my 56 Executive T'ultra appears to be the same as on the engine.
Posted on: 2012/1/8 9:16
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VAPOR LOCK demystified: See paragraph SEVEN of PMCC documentaion as listed in post #11 of the following thread:f
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