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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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Here is a suitcase that I recreated the original for another project.

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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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Dear Packard friends,
Today I had a little bit time and read my previous posts, which were translated from German language into English by using the GOOGLE TRANSLATOR. Even with my lousy knowledge of English, I noticed that there were a few things wrong with this translations. So I translated the English translation of some posts back into German. What came out of it ... really surprised me. I can imagine that some of you probably shook your head when you read these texts. It seems as if the proportion of possible „AI“ in this translator is infinitesimally very very small. In no case can the “I” have anything to do with „Intelligence“. So I ask all readers once again to please be patient when reading my posts. If anyone knows a translator... even if it costs something... which is better than this one from GOOGLE, please give me a hint about it. In the meantime, I will try to eliminate the worst errors through “back translation” (German-English >>> English-German) and hope this will help.

Karl

Posted on: 1/20 11:37
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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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To me I think it is fine. For example this post:https://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27706&post_id=267004#forumpost267004

Aside from "Viktoria" (should be Victoria) the only noticeable error is saying "petrol" instead of "gasoline" 😉

Posted on: 1/20 12:15
'55 400. Needs aesthetic parts put back on, and electrical system sorted.
'55 Clipper Deluxe. Engine is stuck-ish.
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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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In this part of the English speaking world, ie Australia, "petrol" is the norm.

Posted on: 1/20 16:21
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"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

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1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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I know Mal, that's the joke 😃

"Gasoline" is the standard in the USA and Canada with "petrol" the standard in most (all) other English-speaking countries.

Many people with British cars will use the British terms for them, for example bonnet instead of hood. By the same logic, a Packard consumes gasoline.

Of course, I don't personally care which term someone wants to use, just joking around.

Posted on: 1/20 17:15
'55 400. Needs aesthetic parts put back on, and electrical system sorted.
'55 Clipper Deluxe. Engine is stuck-ish.
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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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HPH-English, because I speak and apply it, sometimes badly or incorrectly, is a great language despite its differences in interpretation, application and usage! Enough of this stuff. Karl, your use of Google Translate is fine with me.

Posted on: 1/20 17:54
Mal
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Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia
"Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche.

1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD

1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD

1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD

What's this?
Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry!
Here's how!
Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com
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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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I once used the term “gas” to a Welsh friend who took a while to realize what I meant. He pictured the car running on natural gas or something else but not gasoline!

Posted on: 1/20 18:32
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Re: 1924 Sport 136 Muffler Dimensions
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Dear Packard Friends.
I'm urgently looking for the dimensions for the muffler of my 1924 Packard Single 8 (Sport Phaeton 136). I asked about all the options that I knew of and that were mentioned to me by members in the Packard forums. Unfortunately, even the well-known museums and administrators of blue prints on Packard vehicles have no data on my 1924 8-cylinder model.
There is someone who has this data. But because he rebuilds and sells this silencer himself, he cannot release the dimensions because he is afraid that some 75-year-old dummy in Germany could pass on this data and sales for the sale of this !924-1926 component could at least collapse and so on Its sales/profits are at risk. Of course I understand that. But I would have the opportunity to buy one of his replicas. Unfortunately, the costs for purchase, shipping, + 10% customs duty + 19% import sales tax are utopian for me and not included in my restoration budget. It is my principle to recreate all components myself that can be recreated. And this silencer is a relatively simple construct and it is no problem for me to recreate it. What I'm missing are the exact dimensions of the individual components of the muffler, which can be seen on page 81 of the Parts List 1924-1926. Of course, I don't expect anyone who has such an original silencer installed in their 1924-26 Packard to remove it and disassemble it to give me the dimensions. But maybe there is someone who knows where such a muffler can be found in a removed state.
But if this is not possible, perhaps a very good copy from an original parts list would help. The copies I have are copies of copies and are not very suitable for enlargement. Since the components are not drawn but photographed, the images could be enlarged so that the other dimensions and data could be determined using reference dimensions.

The most important dimensions are the dimensions of the two inner tubes and here the diameters of the holes in these tubes, as well as the number and location of the holes. The two inner tubes form 3 chambers throughout the entire silencer. Due to the different position and the different number of holes in the two tubes, the clocked sound waves are superimposed in anti-phase in the chambers, thus reducing (dampening) the sound. Construction and material also play an important role in the sound and thus the vehicle-specific and typical sound produced by the various automobiles. Therefore, the dimensions are essential for a usable replica.

So, I'm grateful for every hint.

Karl

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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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Ah yes, English, or as I call it sometimes, Engrish, the great "common" language which separates all former and current empire nations. Remember in this light that Karl is translating for that pretentious version known as Oxford and most of us here speak something more accurately called 'Murrikan.


Karl, be certain that I am not picking on you. Welcome - glad that you are here. Best wishes on your project. I feel that your solution of putting your posts through 2 trips on the translator might yield best results.


I hope that you can find what you're looking for.

Posted on: 2/3 7:54
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Re: 1924 Sport 136
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The whole car must have been left outside for a long time. All sheet metal parts had deep rust pits. Simply filling these up with putty would not make sense because later the putty could break in deeper in these areas than in other areas, which would lead to the typical “orange skin”. In addition, putty on the side parts of the hood in the area of the ventilation slots was out of the question anyway. So I painted all surfaces with epoxy spray filler using a spray gun and then sanded these layers back down to the sheet metal. I repeated this twice until all the rust scars were filled. I then placed the parts in the sun for 8 hours a day for 2 weeks last summer. If there is no painting booth with heating, this is one way to shrink the spray filler/putty to such an extent that further paint build-up should not cause any problems. I'm really very happy that I'll never have to do this work again... like grinding the fan slots or grinding out the fender beads.

Karl

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Posted on: 2/7 8:09
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