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Remove and Re-core 1934 Radiator
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Tom Laferriere
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I am about to embark on removing the radiator on the 1101 Coupe and have it re-cored. It runs too hot on a 70 degree day and its most likely the original core, plus it leaks now. I have attached a few pictures. I want to re-core in the original material.

Comments, suggestions, advice is greatly appreciated. I am in RI and would travel in New England/NJ area to get an original core done.

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Tom

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Posted on: 2010/4/26 11:01
Tom Laferriere - Smithfield, RI

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Re: Remove and Re-core1934 Radiator
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These guys had a very impressive display at Hershey, they are as close as I can get you. There is a guy in Ohio, we had a 1930 Auburn radiator done there about ten years ago, it was a about $1,600 for that. The core may have come from a source in the UK, I didn't handle this directly, so my memory is a little vague.

Posted on: 2010/4/26 11:22
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Re: Remove and Re-core1934 Radiator
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Have you talked to Mccrudden's in Warwick?

Posted on: 2010/4/26 11:56
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Re: Remove and Re-core1934 Radiator
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Tom, I recently had the core of my '47 Clipper Custom replaced with a staggered 7-row core. For all practical purposes it looks stock. The improvement in cooling was impressive. The advantage to this design is that no row is completely covered by the row in front of it and gets the benefit of unrestricted air flow. You may want to inquire about this type when discussing with shops. Not inexpensive, but a good investment.

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Posted on: 2010/4/26 14:31
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Re: Remove and Re-core1934 Radiator
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Phil, need to get it out first, but certainly will discuss with them.

Posted on: 2010/4/26 16:18
Tom Laferriere - Smithfield, RI

1934 Packard 1104 Touring
1939 Packard 120 Coupe (in family since 1970)

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Re: Remove and Re-core 1934 Radiator
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I remember ready somewhere (cant find it now!) about the procedure to remove the radiator from a 33/34. In a quick look over, looks like the headlights/bar needs to come off. I assume the chrome grill and radiator are removed as a unit and then the rad removed from the shell.

Posted on: 2010/4/26 16:22
Tom Laferriere - Smithfield, RI

1934 Packard 1104 Touring
1939 Packard 120 Coupe (in family since 1970)

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This would be a perfect question for Dave as he own's a '34. But is currently out to sea and won't be back till the Sunday I believe.

Posted on: 2010/4/26 18:38
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I have a 32 so it's probably close enough. Now if I can remember

Take off the radiator grill and shutters as one unit. Then the outer shell chomes off first. On mine the welting needs to be removed to reveal some bolts and there were some tiny bolts at the bottom edge.

Then unbolt the shutter assembly from the radiator.

Posted on: 2010/4/27 0:37
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Re: Remove and Re-core 1934 Radiator
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I got a honey comb style radiator. I assumed that was original. Anyone know?

Posted on: 2010/4/27 0:38
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Re: Remove and Re-core 1934 Radiator
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Tom,

You may want to talk to:

http://antiqueradiators.com/

These guys are located in Maine. A few years ago I dealt with them and they seemed OK.

I'm not sure about a honeycomb in the '34 but I do know it was stock in a '32. I had one made about five years ago and it's not inexpensive. Current cost is going to be $1500 to $2500+.

You want to have it done right up front, the honeycomb is tough to repair. I have samples of the original core Packard used. They used two types of material, brass for the water tubes and copper for the fins on each side of the tubes.

If you do have any future problems with the radiator, under no circumstances use a product such as Barr's leak stop in the radiator. Due to the narrow passages a leak stop product such as this will clog the core.

If you don't want to have a honeycomb core made there are shops that will use a modern core (tube & ribbon) and put a false honeycomb on each side of the core.

Regards,

Dave

Posted on: 2010/5/3 17:49
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