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1939 120 firewall grommet
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David Grubbs
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does anyone know which wire or cable goes in which hole on the 39 120 firewall grommet? A photo would be great. I have a new one from Steele, and need to know which wire goes where. Also, should I be splitting it to install the wires? thanks

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Posted on: 2011/3/22 13:40
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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The largest hole is for the ignition cable. The other holes it really doesn't matter, but if one of the other wires is bigger than the rest, put that through the second largest hole. Slicing would make installation easier, but that's up to you.

Posted on: 2011/3/22 14:00
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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I beg to differ with West's proposal; I think the largest is for the wire harness itself, the second largest for the jacketed ignition cable West refers to. The remaining are choices depending on whether there is an Overdrive Lockout cable to consider. The oil pressure and water temp lines are small. I placed the oil line to the far passenger side since it is on the passenger side of the engine and the water next to. This seemed to create the fewest crossings of wires and lines for an uncluttered appearance. Regarding the installation, yes, you'll need to make a radial from each hole toward the outer perimeter of the grommet (unless you wish to undo lines and push them through, but this is even impossible with the water line). In case you need to add holes, a steel hole punch will do the trick, but you must be careful as rubber is not the easiest thing to punch cleanly.

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Posted on: 2011/3/23 7:41
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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See Post #9.

Posted on: 2011/3/23 8:28
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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One other way to make very clean holes in rubber that thick is to use a piece of thin wall brass tubing in appropriate size in a drill press or drill or even a lathe.

Bevel one end with a reamer, grinder or sanding belt so it has a reasonably sharp chamfer all around the diameter. Mount the straight end in the chuck. Place a scrap of wood under the rubber and drill away using slow speed. I use a foot pedal on my drill press for ease and can just hold the rubber but clamps can be figured out if wanted and don't distort the rubber.

With slow speed and a little water or other lube if needed the tubing will neatly cut a hole. After one hole is made, remove the tubing and push out the scrap piece from inside before making another.

I have done this with rubber bottle stoppers an inch or so thick many times. Can go to a half inch diameter or the max size of your drill chuck. Larger if you want to get fancy and figure out how to solder or connect different size tubes together so one end fits the chuck.

Posted on: 2011/3/23 9:42
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A staple of nearly every working bench chemist in the 60s-80s was a set of brass cork borers with ends sharpened for cutting. These were used for boring various diameter holes in corks, rubber or otherwise, for thermometers and various other entrances/exits of fluids/gases.

I don't suppose these are still available "new" from laboratory supply houses like Fisher Scientific (are they even still in business?) but you might find a set somewhere. They've been nearly indispensable to me over the years for cutting holes in gaskets. Smallest is about 1/16th diameter, largest is 15/16th inch. If you can find a set, you'll have a great addition to your tool chest.

EDIT - just checked - yes, Fisher Scientific is still around and the cork borer set is still available from the catalog. Bad news is the price, $144.72. Their catalog says the manufacturer is Humboldt Manufacturing.

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Posted on: 2011/3/23 10:37
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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Thanks for all of the advice guys. I certainly appreciate it!

Posted on: 2011/3/23 10:50
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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I just used a drill bit to drill the needed holes in my new grommet. Worked just fine. Slitting the grommet to pass through the main harness, and the speedo cable was required, but once the retainer is affixed, it keeps everything sealed nice and tight.

Posted on: 2011/3/23 13:09
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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I'm going to back pedal a bit here, and claim I was correct in my first response.

The actual wiring harness has to go through a much larger hole, and that you have to drill yourself. I suspect the grommets do not come pre-drilled for the harness because depending on your model and accessories, your harness size could vary considerably.
Attached is a picture of mine, and it is clear that my harness is going through, 1. a bigger hole, and 2. a hole that wasn't there when I got it.

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Posted on: 2011/3/23 15:27
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Re: 1939 120 firewall grommet
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Thanks West. This really helps.

Beautiful engine! You probably know Jim Hollingsworth in Dallas. He has a great collection of 1940 models and has at least one with factory air.

Posted on: 2011/3/23 21:47
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