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Hi Packard fans,

I am new on the forum and I have a question with regard to a Packard car that was taken by ship from the USA to Norway for transportation during a few years and then shipped back again. It arrived in Christiania (nowadays called Oslo, Norway) in August 1919 and returned in 1922. Mr Rosto drove through Europe as a sales manager for Lindsay-Fuller Inc. from Rochester.

I tried to identify the car by looking at the photographs and drawings on this website, but without luck. Always there are details different from the photo. Unfortunately, my photo is not too sharp and clear either...

Can anyone identify the type? Thank you very much.


Kind regards
Rob Mulder

Spikkestad, Norway

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Very interesting photo. With those fender integrated headlights and grille it appears to be a Pierce-Arrow and not a Packard but I can't identify the model or year beyond maybe 1916-1919.

Agreed, I'm not that versed in Pierce-Arrow, but I'd say it's pre-1920 and not one of the large series. Perhaps a Model 38, certain not a 48 or 66.

Not a Pierce expert, but the upturned end of the rear fenders seem to match the 1914 vintage as shown in:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jon_loder/4026514157/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Hi all,

The reason why I thought it was a Packard, is because the story goes in Norway that it was. But I agree that the model does not resemble any of the photos I have seen of the Packard. The hoot on the engine is much lower and there is a luggage rack at the rear. Your suggestion of the Pierce-Arrow looks more correct especially the headlights.

I also found that my photo showed a front seat much higher than the one in the Packard automobiles.

So it is likely to be a Pierce Arrow Model 38?

Regarding the date it must be a pre-1919 model, as the car arrived i Norway in August 1919.

Thanks for your respons. We'll be going to bed soon, so I might not see your replies before tomorrow.

Cheers
Rob

G'day Rob,
to PackardInfo and agree with the others here that it is a Pierce-Arrow.

Might get a better response if you posted your request on the AACA Site either in

Pierce-Arrow Forum

or

What is it? Forum

Or, go to the horse's mouth.

http://www.pierce-arrow.org/index.php

Mulder

It's a 1914-the profile of the headlights changed after the first year on the fenders. I'm pretty sure it's a 38 HP.


PIerces come in three sizes, very large. larger and locomotive . I've seen a 66, and they are larger than a small bus...

Regards


John Harley

Hi all,

Thank you for all your replies. I am very pleased with the answers received so far and impressed by the knowledge you all have.
Looks like that we have to dig a little bit more... Pity it wasn't a Packard - they built lovely cars.

Cheers
Rob

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Rob, Pierce built fine cars also. With Packard and Peerless they were known as "The 3 P's" of fine cars.